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75 posted 03-25-2010 11:17 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/imagecache/gallery_img_full/image/image_file/P032310CK-0627_0.jpg
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     Actually, Mike, none of the late night jokes came with numbers.  Maybe you didn't notice.  Some of them were funny.  The "Who was Saved" joke I first read in a book about Nazi germany almost 40 years back.  It's still got legs.

     The 19 and 20, though, looked to be two zingers you posted in this thread.  That Jennifer, very clever isn't she, hiding obvious things in plain sight to make sure they get missed.

     Doesn't mean we all couldn't have been a bit better with our mouths, though, and this wouldn't be such a bad place to start, would it?  Why not take another quick and gratuitous swing at me, just to call it even, and we'll try to begin again with some civility?  Can't hurt too bad, can it?
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77 posted 03-26-2010 09:41 AM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Civility, Bob, does not include veiled personal insults, admonishments, name-calling or sarcastic comments. If you really feel you can do that, fine. I'd love to see it and respond in kind.

I need to take a swing to call us even? That means I'm one behind? I've tried hard to catch up, really
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78 posted 03-26-2010 11:14 AM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

And before the match and gasoline in # 19 and #20 came #18.

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan

A veiled insult directed at liberals who post in the Alley? Hmmmmm...
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     No, Mike, I believe you're actually several ahead of me.  But I see you've taken the free swing, anyway, so how about dealing with some renewed politeness starting now?  If only in this thread.  
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80 posted 03-26-2010 11:59 AM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

I like this thread too much to not give it another shot. Thanks for your support, Bob.

Another Voltaire:

All murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
- Voltaire


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81 posted 03-26-2010 12:37 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but an indefinite one." --James Madison
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82 posted 03-26-2010 12:40 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Jennifer, you must really have a problem with Will Rogers then, who said, "I'm not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat".

If you want to take a comment Reagan said 30 years ago as a personal affront to members here, there must be more truth in it that Reagan thought.
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83 posted 03-26-2010 01:16 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

We're trying to move beyond veiled insults, Balladeer, didn't you get the memo?  "Favorite quotes, words of wisdom, personal mottos, thoughts to live by" are welcome, trolling isn't.
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Will Rogers again:

“I bet you if I had met him and had a chat with him, I would have found him a very interesting and human fellow, for I never yet met a man that I didn’t like. When you meet people, no matter what opinion you might have formed about them beforehand, why, after you meet them and see their angle and their personality, why, you can see a lot of good in all of them”

He was talking about Lev Davidovich Bronstein which I think adds weight to his quote.

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85 posted 03-26-2010 02:08 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

A poem:

"Oceans" by Juan Ramon Jimenez:

http://oldpoetry.com/opoem/121934-Juan-Ramon-Jimenez-Oceans
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86 posted 03-26-2010 05:28 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”    

  -- Author Unknown


Jenn, there are people here who may be qualified to speak of moving beyond veiled insults. You are not one of them until you show some effort in doing so.
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There's a veiled insult in "Oceans"? I sure didn't see any, Balladeer. Perhaps you'd be so kind as to point it out so I won't make the same mistake again. Thanks!
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88 posted 03-26-2010 06:23 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Well, while you were calling for civility, you referred to my actions as trolling.

Wouldn't it be more productive to stop the ad hominem attacks, the mockery, sarcasm, nit picking and stick to discussing facts and the real issues? - Jennifer

Isn't it time yet for you to live up to your words?
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89 posted 03-26-2010 06:31 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

Ah well, at least I tried. Time to hit the ignore button and move on.

Anyway, here's another poem:

Bread and Roses

As we come marching, marching in the beauty of the day,
A million darkened kitchens, a thousand mill lofts gray,
Are touched with all the radiance that a sudden sun discloses,
For the people hear us singing: "Bread and roses! Bread and roses!"

As we come marching, marching, we battle too for men,
For they are women's children, and we mother them again.
Our lives shall not be sweated from birth until life closes;
Hearts starve as well as bodies; give us bread, but give us roses!

As we come marching, marching, unnumbered women dead
Go crying through our singing their ancient cry for bread.
Small art and love and beauty their drudging spirits knew.
Yes, it is bread we fight for -- but we fight for roses, too!

As we come marching, marching, we bring the greater days.
The rising of the women means the rising of the race.
No more the drudge and idler -- ten that toil where one reposes,
But a sharing of life's glories: Bread and roses! Bread and roses!

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The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”    

  -- Author Unknown
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A couple of links re Bread and Roses.

The first, the poem set to music with pics from the 1912 Lawrence Strike. The second, background info on the strike. Kind of interesting to think about what life must have been like back then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19bzfhs_flU&feature=related

  http://ocp.hul.harvard.edu/ww/events_lawrencestrike.html
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     Hey, Mike.  Is there some point you are trying to make with what appears to be this constant stream of attacks?  It appears that you are singlehandedly trying to destroy the give and take of the forum with this barrage of difficult statements, especially after retreating from the forum entirely and insulting some of the membership not so long ago, then saying that you would never return.

     Surely you would be beyond trying to ruin it for the rest of us, wouldn't you?  I would hope so.

     How about pressing restart again, and trying to be civil to your friends?  You could actually contribute a favorite quote, word of wisdom, personal motto or thought to live by.

     Here's mine for the moment—

     Be a friend.

    
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Politeness is the art of choosing among your thoughts.
- Madame de Stael
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Bob, I have included many personal favorite quotes. As far as the ones you don't care for, they fall under the "thoughts to live by" section of the title.

However, I will cease and desist, if they bother you. Apparently the teabagger quotes Jenn posted did not bother your sensitivies but that's ok. I understand..
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18,19,20,28,30,32,35,37,38,39,40,41,42,45,47,52,53,64,66,70, and on and on and on.
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“If you let a bully come in your front yard, he'll be on your porch the next day...”
- Lyndon B. Johnson
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"Who use quotations often ought admit
They compensate for their own lack of wit."

-Anonymous


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For there is nothing so subtle and abtruse, but when it is once thorougly understood and published to the world, even a dull wit can carry it.
- I forget
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     Thank you, Mike, for your consideration.  

      The piece of reality in what Mike has been saying is that there has been the occasional jab to the right among these — passive voice, noted — and that the notion of being a friend is large enough to embrace everybody with  a willingness to work on it.  Clearly that includes Mike, as might be seen from his last post here.

     The challenge for me is how to express that willingness while remaining engaged, which gets me feeling combative sometimes.  I wouldn't usually get this personal about myself, because it sounds lugubrious, except the nature of the thread does seem to encourage personal mottos and such, and this is one of the things that I find myself coming back to, over and over, in my notion of personal work over the years.  

    
 
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