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50 posted 03-24-2010 11:39 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

"Often the politicians who talk about health care the most believe in the Hippocratic Oath the least. Barack Obama falls into this category. He promises that his health care plan will protect the weak and vulnerable. This would be a little bit more credible if his policies weren't already killing and exploiting them." --columnist George Neumayr
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"As America's teetering tower of unkeepable promises grows, so does the weight of government, in taxes and mandates that limit investments and discourage job creation. America's dynamism, and hence upward social mobility, will slow, as the economy becomes what the party of government wants it to be -- increasingly dependent on government-created demand." --columnist George Will
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"On health care, [Obama's] most alluring promises will soon be discredited, as costs, premiums and the number of uninsured (in the near term) remain high. To paraphrase Colin Powell, if you reform it, you own it, and all the discontents with the health-care system will now adhere to Democrats. A more cautious and shrewd leader would avoid making easily falsifiable representations or putting himself on the hook in this way. Not Obama. On health care, he's immoderate in his substance, his risk-taking and his rhetoric. He's all in, and he doesn't care." --National Review editor Rich Lowry
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53 posted 03-24-2010 11:42 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Disregard my comment, Bob, since Jennifer retracted her post after my comment....typical.
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DNFTT
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     The "typical" wasn't really necessary, was it?  If Jenn retracted a post, why toss in a provocation?  It makes nobody feel better and solves nothing.

quote:

If we do everything right, if we do it with absolute certainty, there's still a 30% chance we're going to get it wrong." --Joe Biden, speaking to members of the House Democratic caucus who were gathered in Williamsburg, Va., for their annual retreat, Feb. 6, 2009



     I was actually fond of this one.  It's certainly been my own experience.  I think that The V.P. may be exagerating on the 30% figure a bit, since he wouldn't have gotten elected with a score like that, but I may be wrong.  I'm not the politician.  Many's the time when I've been absolutely sure and found out that I've been wrong, and I'm lucky enough to admit to it, at least on occasion.  That way I can at least correct some of my mistakes.

     I think Biden was perceptive here.

     It looks, from the context, that you don't agree, though.

    
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     I don't text, so I have no idea about DNFTT.  Anybody care or dare to fill me in?
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“Courage is fire, and bullying is smoke.”
- Benjamin Disraeli

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A leader in the Democratic Party is a boss, in the Republican Party he is a leader-
Harry S. Truman

Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself-
Mark Twain

The good news is that, according to the Obama administration, the rich will pay for everything. The bad news is that, according to the Obama administration, you're rich-
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We have, I fear, confused power with greatness-
Stewart Udall

You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt-
Daniel Hannan

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, "WHAT A RIDE

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Yes, Bob, Biden is very perceptive. His latest comment "big effin deal" proves  that beyond a doubt.
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You Know You're a Liberal:

If you believe the government creates its own wealth.


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     You're quite perceptive at times, too, Mike; at least I think so.  I've never thought that people were either perceptive or right all the time, though, including myself.  I wasn't suggesting perfection for the Vice President, just acknowledging insight.
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"[T]he States can best govern our home concerns and the general government our foreign ones. I wish, therefore ... never to see all offices transferred to Washington, where, further withdrawn from the eyes of the people, they may more secretly be bought and sold at market. ... [W]hen all government ... shall be drawn to Washington as the center of all power, it will render powerless the checks provided of one government on another. ... Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread."

Thomas Jefferson
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"Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them." --Thomas Jefferson
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“In Scott Brown we have an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, ex-nude model, teabagging supporter of violence against woman and against politicians with whom he disagrees.” - Keith Olbermann

Gee, nothing there to incite hatred is there, Bob?
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     Actually, no.  No references to guns, for example, no references to suggest hurt to the man, stuff like that, Mike, that reasonably headline grabbing in right wing politics or that seems to be a distortion of facts.  I don't know that's he's homophobic, but then he has set up Rachael Maddow as a fund-raiser-straw-woman by suggesting that she's going to run against him.  Then of course he ducks out on actually fact-checking the allegation with her or folks connected with her.  That would suggest a willingness to act poorly to me.

     Incitement to violence, use of hate to stir up violence, use of lies to stir up hate or violence, why, no, I don't see that here.  Doesn't mean that there aren't left wing folk who use that sort of language, though.   It's simply that I haven't heard any of the sort of bomb-throwing SDS idiocy that I heard and disliked during the Vietnam War.  When I got upset at that time, I went and talked with local VFW groups and learned some lessons about the humanity of the people who disagreed with me.  Then we all ate Bar-b-que together with a reasonably cheerful result, and hoisted a couple of beers.  I was barely old enough to do that legally at the time.

     Those were smart guys.  They knew they'd fought for a democracy, and they trusted the democracy they fought for as a way of solving their issues.  It seemed to work pretty well, too.  They had a bit more faith in it than I did, at the time, but they were willing to share.  Everybody gained.

     Nobody suggested that we should shoot each other, or threatened to throw bricks through each others' windows.
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Late Night Obama Bashing
  
The liberals are asking us to give Obama time.
  
We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
  
America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
  
--- Jay Leno
  
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's' new Obama Value Meal? A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
  
--- Conan O'Brien
  
Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon? A: A fund raiser.
  
--- Jay Leno
  
Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary? A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
  
--- David Letterman
  
Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
  
A: America!
  
--- Jimmy Fallon
  
Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo? A: Bo has papers.
  
--- Jimmy Kimmel
  
Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for clunkers" program? A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
  
--- David Letterman
  
  

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How sad, how petty, an interesting thread turned into an Obama hate-fest. Teabagger mentality I guess.
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You poisened the post yourself, Jennifer, back in post #27.
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#19 and #20 was the beginning of the hate-fest. Thank you for bringing it to a conclusion.
I'll start another thread in a day or two.
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You really need to learn to be able to laugh at some of Obama's flubs, Jen. They really are quite funny.
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"Favorite quotes, words of wisdom, personal mottos, thoughts to live by"

Seemed like a good idea, thought provoking, educational even. I learned a lot from reading quotes from Voltaire, Disraeli, Pascal, even Cicero and if others did, then perhaps it wasn't a complete waste of time and effort. I'm sorry to see it go.
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Nobody suggested that we should shoot each other, or threatened to throw bricks through each others' windows.

No one is suggesting that now, Bob.

How sad, how petty, an interesting thread turned into an Obama hate-fest. -Jennifer

Yes,I suppose it was not petty when threads were turned into a Bush or Palin hate-fests. You seemed to get a lot of enjoyment out of them, as I recall.

Well, then Leno, Letterman, O'Brien and Fallon must all be hate-mongers, too, I suppose. SInce I'm sure their comments got some great laughs, their audiences must be hate-mongers, too. I'm sure they never came out with any Bush jokes...right.

I'm sorry to see it go.

Then why did you send it on it's way with the comments you made and the ones that you deleted afterwards? You set fire to a house and then cry about how much you miss it...

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#19 and #20 - the match and gasoline. Don't forget to wash your hands, gasoline is toxic - like hate speech and homophobic slurs.
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I'll pass your complaint on to Leno and Dave next time I see them
 
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