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"I won't condemn their hatred"

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Hate multiplies hate, violence multiplies violence, and toughness multiplies toughness in a descending spiral of destruction….The chain reaction of evil–hate begetting hate, wars producing more wars–must be broken, or we shall be plunged into the dark abyss of annihilation.”
-Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Oh it's still around, Jen, hate to disappoint you.
http://www.drugabuse.gov/DrugPages/acidLSD.html
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For NewsBusters, reporting on threats against Congressmen = "legitimizing Democratic talking points"

Baker's argument is that Democrats are engaged in a "demonization effort" against opponents of the new law, and that the media, in reporting on the threatened violence, are playing into that effort. Notably, for all his denunciations of the Democrats and the press over this alleged "demonization," Baker couldn't find any space to denounce the people actually doing the threatening.


http://mediamatters.org/blog/201003250020
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     Stop that, Denise.

     You can get upset about what people call your party with perfect justification if you want it called something else.  But if you are going to call people who speak of themselves as pro-life in language like that, you undercut all moral right to make any sort of request of that nature.  It's seriously hypocritical and it appears purposefully provocative.  I'll still call you TEA Party Folks, but you have undermined any rational case you have for others treating you with equal consideration.  What were you thinking?  

     I don't know what Rachael Maddow said about Rep. Stupak last week.  I would wager, however, that there weren't a lot of death threats involved against the man by your hypocritically named "Pro-Aborts."  And that the "Pro-Aborts" weren't talking about cleaning their rifles and taking to the streets, potentially to hunt people who disagreed with them about health care.  If there were, a reference from a neutral newspaper with decent sources would get an instant apology from me.

     More to the point, I'd like to know how you would know such a thing.  I am only an occasional watcher of Rachel Maddow or Keith Obberman, and in order to actually be able to make a statement like the one you've made, you really would have had to watch all of them, wouldn't you?  Otherwise, you simply wouldn't have any idea.  I bet that you probably took somebody's word for it; that's what I suspect at any rate.

     Did you know, if you want to follow Rush Limbaugh, you can get a summary of his program every day in writing from Media Matters?  Is there some right-wing service like this for Rachael and Keith and the gang?  Inquiring minds want to know.

     If you want to tell me that you'll work against a candidate's re-election campaign, or help raise money for an opponent, or even give money yourself, why that's simply democratic give and take.  Calling somebody a Baby-killer is way over the line, especially a guy like Stupak.  And actual death threats are too far over the line to even deal with as beneath contempt.

     What are you thinking?

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There is to my mind no excuse for saying that I condemn the violence but understand the hatred when the hatred is based on deliberate propaganda that could have and should have been withdrawn at any time.

Ok by me, Bob. Keep deluding yourself but not understanding where the disgust and hatred are coming from. Obama is pretty good at self-delusion, also. "The American people are not interested in process" He may be having second thoughts on that one. Process IS the constitution. Process runs our legal system. Process is supposed to be how our government runs. He feels that he can ignore process by doing whatever was necessary to get his bill passed and the American people would close their eyes and buy it. He is wrong. He has shown that he could care less about either process or whatever the American public thinks. He has made a mistake and the people's disgust is his reward.

This is a Democracy, where we are supposed to talk our differences out.

Why not tell that to Obama, Bob? He doesn't seem to understand that point. He's not interested into  discussion with the American people. He only tells them what he is going to do to them and if they don't like it, well, that's what elections are for.

Now he's going around the country trying to sell the health care bill he has already passed. Makes sense, huh?
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Stop that, Denise??? You are issuing orders now, Bob? SHould we submit our posts to you before submitting them for your approval? WHy didn't I hear a "stop that, Jennifer" when she made an insulting comment about senior moments? You missed that one, I guess. Why didn't I hear you mention that sucha a remark was provocative and insulting and served no purpose, as you have said with my posts? You are just a poster here, like we are, and issuing orders and slapping hands is not part of your realm, even though it appears you think they are.
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Violence At Townhall - Against A Conservative; Six Arrested, Including a Reporter
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By Seton Motley (Bio | Archive)
Fri, 08/07/2009 - 09:46 ET

  
UPDATE: We have some video of the attack.  It appears that it is members of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) doing at least some of the dirty work.

But it's conservatives who engage in violence and hate speech, right?

The Saint Louis Post-Dispatch is reporting that one of their own, reporter Jake Wagman, was one of six people arrested in connection with the beating of a conservative activist outside of a town hall forum held by Democrat Congressman Russ Carnahan.  According to Dawn Majors, a Post-Dispatch photojournalist who witnessed everything unfold, an officer said that Wagman had been "interfering."

From the article:

    Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with “Don't tread on me” printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

    "It just seems there's no freedom of speech without being attacked," he said.

That is some list of injuries, which means it must have been some beating.  And Gladney says he was attacked by "some of those arrested,"  which means there were probably more in the mob than just that. And let us not overlook nor forget the racial slur Gladney additionally endured.

     Two of those were arrested on suspicion of assault, one of resisting arrest and three on suspicion of committing peace disturbances. To be very fair, Wagman of the Post-Dispatch could have simply been in the way while trying to shoot video of the assault; the article does not say.

We'll see how widely this is reported by the Lamestream Media, as it certainly fails to fit into their Conservative Haters template.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2009/08/07/violence-townhall-against-conservative-six-arrested-including-reporter#ixzz0jCoU7etr
hmmm....guess you libs missed that one. I don't recall seeing any righteous condemnation of it by any of you.
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I think Gladney’s ok now, fully recovered, found his calling selling land in the Okefenokee .
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The threats were coming from fringe elements of both sides of the spectrum, Bob. But the only outcry you hear about in the lamestream media, like MSNBC, are against those allegedly from the right.

I haven't seen Maddow or Olberman in ages, only in occassional clips. I heard about last week's threats against Stupack on the news last night during the segment talking about this weeks threats, stating that the FBI is investigating all of them. But I haven't come across any from Maddow and Company talking about the threats to Stupack last week, so if you can find a clip of them reporting, and denouncing them, please share them here. Or maybe you will have some luck in finding clips of their outrage when McCain's offices were vanadalized during the campaign.

I've never called anyone a baby-killer and I've never threatened anybody, and neither have the vast majority of those on the right, despite the best efforts of those on the left to slander everyone on the right at every opportunity, even if they have to imagine a conspiracy complete with code words encouraging violence emanating out over the airwaves. If these people didn't destroy their brains through drug abuse in their youth, then I guess maybe they were just born with a deficit in the thinking department.


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The threats and intimidation against Stupak are reprehensible. Turn on any news channel and you will get full stories on them. The threats and intimidation against him conducted by Democrats when he was not in favor of the bill were equally reprehensible. Were they on the news programs, also, in such grand detail?? Nada, zero, zilch. How about that? The democratic senators who voted no on the health bill were on tv today talking about the threats and intimidation  they got from unions. What channel were they on? FOX, of course. No other station took them. Where are ya, Keith? How about you, Rhodes Scholar Rachel? Guess it's not newsworthy if it's not anti-Republican. Banners have been shown on Fox saying "KILL BUSH" and one showing Bush's head chopped off. There was a clip of Kerry, making a joke, referring to someone going up to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and "killing two birds with one stone." Were these things shown anywhere else? You win the kewpie doll if you said no.

The pathetic attempt to blame the republicans for the actions of the nutjobs and their actions is...well, pathetic. They just can't pass up any opportunity, can they? All politics and to hell what it does to the country. Be proud, democrats....
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“More Bottled Piety   [Victor Davis Hanson]


This week’s talking point is the sudden danger of new right-wing violence, and the inflammatory push-back against health care. I’m sorry, but all this concern is a day late and a dollar short. The subtext is really one of class — right-wing radio talk-show hosts, Glenn Beck idiots, and crass tea-party yokels are foaming at the mouth and dangerous to progressives. In contrast, write a book in which you muse about killing George Bush, and its Knopf imprint proves it is merely sophisticated literary speculation; do a docudrama about killing George Bush, and it will win a Toronto film prize for its artistic value rather than shock from the liberal community about over-the-top discourse.

Socialism and totalitarianism are tough charges from the hard right, but they seem to me about as (or as not) over-the-top as Al Gore screaming “digital brown-shirts” or John Glenn comparing the opposition to Nazis. When 3,000 were murdered in Manhattan, and Michael Moore suggested Bin Laden had wrongly targeted a blue state, I don’t think that repulsive remark prevented liberal politicians from attending his anti-Bush film premiere. Yes, let us have a tough debate over the role of government and the individual, but spare us the melodrama, the bottled piety, and the wounded-fawn hurt.

Like it or not, between 2001 and 2008, the “progressive” community redefined what is acceptable and not acceptable in political and public discourse about their elected officials. Slurs like “Nazi” and “fascist” and “I hate” were no longer the old street-theater derangement of the 1960s, but were elevated to high-society novels, films, political journalism, and vein-bulging outbursts of our elites. If one were to take the word "Bush" and replace it with "Obama" in the work of a Nicholson Baker, or director Gabriel Range, or Garrison Keillor or Jonathan Chait, or in the rhetoic of a Gore or Moore, we would be presently in a national crisis, witnessing summits on the epidemic of "hate speech."

So here we are with the age-old problem that once one destroys decorum for the sake of short-term expediency, it is very hard to restore it in any credible fashion on grounds of principle when the proverbial shoe is on the other foot. A modest suggestion: If the liberal community wishes to be more credible in its concern about contemporary extremist anti-administration rhetoric, then they might try the following: “Please, let us avoid extremism and do not fall into the same trap as Baker, Chait, Keillor, Gore, Moore, or Range when they either expressed open hatred toward their president, or speculated about the assassination of their president, or compared their president to a fascist. We must disown such extremism, past and present."”


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Ah, now I get it, all the nonsense about drug abuse, drug abuse that didn't happen. Someone's trying to make Ph.d. Rhodes Scholar Rachel look as pathetic as two semester drop out viagra popping Oxy Rush.

Bringing up BUSH, thought that was a big no no.

Just like Liz Cheney's attack on DOJ lawyers who represented Gitmo detainees, the right wing's cranking up the teabagger hate fest, cheering on the mob outside the Capitol has come back to bite them in the you know.

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Maybe you want to talk about drug abuse that definitely did happen, Jen? Throw in some alcohol too....read Obama's book again.
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Will the Next Act of Terrorism Be Domestic?

Worse yet, the fringes have been empowered by a frustrated conservative mainstream desperate for popular support. Now, conservatives may have whipped up the kind of anger that cannot be put back in the bottle. What began as the corporate funded, Dick Armey led, FreedomWorks organized, anti-health care rallying Tea Party movement has grown into something beyond what its founders intended.

The Tea Party (if we can call it such) has entered into a series of loose alliances (of convenience or common purpose) with fringe groups like The Oath Keepers, the Committees of Safety, and the Three Percenter Movement (to name a few)

Party connections with the Oath Keepers, Committees of Safety, and the Three Percenter Movement, place these politicians very few degrees from radical white supremacists. The Oath Keepers have attempted to recruit on both the Keystone State Skinheads forum and the odious Stormfront.org; and Three Percenter Movement lists its values as follows:

The Three Percent are the folks the Founders counted on to save the Republic when everyone else abandoned it. And we will. There will be no more free Wacos and no more free Katrinas.
For we are the Three Percent. We will not disarm. You cannot convince us. You cannot intimidate us.
You can try to kill us, if you think you can.
But remember, we'll shoot back .
We are not going away. We are not backing up another inch. And there are THREE MILLION OF US.
Your move, Mr. Wannabe Tyrant.
Your move.

This April 19 will see an armed "Open Carry" rally outside of Washington DC - run by the Three Percenter Movement
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-schneider/one-if-by-land-americas-n_b_513608.html
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If you want to see dangerous radicals you don't need to look any further than the White House.
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We saw "dangerous radicals" riling up the teabagger mob from the Capitol balcony.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/03/will-going-negative-on-health-care-doom-republicans-in-2010-perils-of-catering-to-tea-party-activists.html
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2010/03/25/cnns-sanchez-asks-are-u-s-zealots-similar-al-qaeda-taliban

The Democratic lapdogs are in full attack mode. I think they want a civil war. I think the best thing to do is to ignore their smears, don't take their bait, and just keep presenting the facts. The truth will eventually win out.
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I don't think you'll see many Democrats at the April 19th Open Carry.

Do wave if you happen to be near a camera.
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Of course they are in full attack mode, Denise, anything to provide a diversion. Let them rant. They are not fooling anyone except readers of the Huffington Post and they are showing their true colors about how the country doesn't matter....only they do.

Good and accurate comment about dangerous radicals and the White House. They have quite a group there, don't they?
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Years ago, major league baseball and the national football league made the decision not to televise any disruptions on the fields by lunatics. They did not want to give them credence or publicity. What a shame our news media an the democrat party could not be as intelligent.

Threats and attacks against democrats have been front page news and lead-in stories on nightly news all day long. Why? The answer is simple. They want to discredit the Tea-partiers and republican leadership. It's all a smear campaign on their part and it's orchestrated. If it causes more of the same by highlighting it, they couldn't care less.

That is the democrat party....and the media it has in it's pocket.
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STUPAK: "Well -- well, the thing that outraged a lot of us was, while the demonstrations were going on, the Republicans were on the second floor with signs urging the crowd below. Some of them said, "Kill." Some of them had a picture of -- of the speaker, and they would hold it up and slice their hand across the speaker's throat. To the crowd, they would all cheer.

I mean, it almost became a -- a mob mentality here. And then, when you have members, same members of Congress, encouraging it with signs and pictures and gestures, that -- that's -- that's really uncalled for."

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     Wow, Mike, back to calling the Democratic Party, the Democrat Party!  I thought you actually said that you'd not do that, but perhaps my memory has gotten foggy.  And Denise seems to avoiding dealing with calling the pro-life folks the "Pro-Abort" people.  Each of you seems to be saying that you  think that democrats are being hateful, neither of you seem to notice that you are crossing lines that really needn't be crossed.  

     This language functions as a way of hurting feelings without any particular need to do so right here.

     These little language slips are the same sort of thing that seems to be happening nationally.  Here, we can look each other straight in the eyes — at least figuratively in our little computer space — and say, Hey, that was painful and needless, and I wish you'd stop that.  And we have the choice at that point of pushing the reset buttons in our heads, saying Okay, I see what you mean, and then trying to make the point differently.

     No, Mike, I can't order anybody to do that; and if I had the power to do so, I wouldn't.  The most I have is the right to say it like I'm serious about it.  People usually ignore me anyway, but I can at least feel like I made a straightforward statement about what I think is right, and I usually try to temper it with consideration and politeness.  Sometimes that even comes across.  I wouldn't want to be in a position of power where I could make what I said stick like that.  I've made a point of avoiding that sort of thing.  Others are better at it than I am.

     The flip side, for me, is that when somebody else is right and I'm not, or when they have a point that I think is a good one, or when I make a mistake and realize it, I try to make a point of saying that as well.  As you should know.

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Threats and attacks against democrats have been front page news and lead-in stories on nightly news all day long. Why? The answer is simple. They want to discredit the Tea-partiers and republican leadership. It's all a smear campaign on their part and it's orchestrated. If it causes more of the same by highlighting it, they couldn't care less.



     Occam's razor applies to your question.

     There have been reports of attacks against Democrats all day (and for several days) in the press.  These reports suggest that there are a bunch of folks on the right who have been whipping up hate against Democrats, and that some of these hate messages  have begun to deliver violence as a result of more than a year of preparation.  Many on the Right have called the Democrats names like Fascist, Communist, and socialist, sometimes within the same paragraph.  If not precisely, then closely enough as to make President Clinton's comment about what the meaning of the word "is" is look like it wasn't hair splitting at all.

     So, why have their been reports about attacks on the Democrats in the press?

     William of Occam would suggest to us that the simplest answer is generally the best — not because there's an attempt to smear Republican leadership, but because [i]there have actually been a large number of attacks against Democrats.[i]  There is the most reasonable explanation.  The fact that folks have been predicting that the constant barrage of lies and distortions directed at the Democrats by the radical right over the past years and a half might have this effect, would surely have this effect unless it was moderated to criticisms based in reality, has conveniently been forgotten.  It is not like the Democrats haven't made mistakes worthy of genuine reality based criticism, you know; it's not like a good case couldn't have been built without the lies and the half truths.

     I would have agreed with some of it and disagreed with other parts of it, but I couldn't have fought the grounding in the facts.  It's the basis of creating attacks based on lies that bothers me, and ought to bother everybody (except those who deal with politics from a purely technical point of view, I suppose) else as well.  It's not the wretched press that smears the leadership of the Republicans and of the Tea Party subsection, it the coming out of what's actually been said by these folks yolked to factual reporting of what the actual result has been.  When the connection is made, the thing actually looks as ugly as it is.  That, my friends, is not a smear; au contraire, it is the merciless light of day focused on what has, till now, been going on under rocks and in various noisome dank places that flourish far better without the sterilizing presence of light.

     The buzzards, as we used to say back home in Ohio, have come home to Hinkley.
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Bob, I see nothing about the party being "democratic" these days, in any way. Democrats they are.

Your post reiterated the news stories about threats against democrats but ignored my statements about the threats, present and past, against republicans that the press virtually ignore or slip on page 42. When that happens, it shows the bias I refer to. The word obviously went out  before the vote to trash the movement and the press complied. Right before the vote a "tea-partier" screamed at a disable man. Some alleged "tea-bagger" in the crowd shouted an alleged racial slur at a congressman, with no proof. Now "tea-baggers" are threatening congressmen. All of these things get major press coverage. The threats against republicans? Barely a whisper. The threats against Stupak by the left and unions before he changed his vote? Nope, not much there, either.

You may not wish to recognize this ploy but, believe me, many do and, once again, democrats underestimate the intelligence of the American people. It's another example of why network news watcher numbers has plummeted faster than Clinton can unzip his pants.
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"The word obviously went out  before the vote to trash the movement and the press complied."

Tinfoil hat time!

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