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0 posted 2010-02-13 08:18 AM


These news stories are all from the same day...
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Obama administration appears increasingly unsure what to do with professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed after officials indicated they are reconsidering not just where he should go on trial, but whether he should face civilian or military justice.

Both Attorney General Eric Holder and White House spokesman Robert Gibbs did not rule out a military trial when asked Friday about the Obama administration's options.

Trying Mohammed in military court would mark a further political retreat from Holder's announcement last year that Mohammed and the four other Sept. 11 suspects now held at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, would be tried in federal court in New York.

White House officials said Friday that Obama and his top advisers will play a direct role in ultimately deciding how to prosecute Mohammed. The administration initially decided to try the five terror defendants in New York but have since appeared to backtrack.

The administration is reconsidering Holder's plan to put the five men on trial in a federal court in Manhattan, after local officials there balked at security and logistics complications.

"At the end of the day, wherever this case is tried, in whatever forum, what we have to ensure is that it's done as transparently as possible and with adherence to all the rules," Holder told The Washington Post. "If we do that, I'm not sure the location or even the forum is as important as what the world sees in that proceeding." [URL=http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-12-sept-11-trial_N.htm?csp=34&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomWashington-TopStories+%28Ne ws+-+]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-12-sept-11-trial_N.htm?csp=34&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomWashington-TopStories+%28N ews+-+[/URL]  Washington+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

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WASHINGTON — Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-proclaimed mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and four other alleged accomplices will be moved from the military detention center at Guantanamo Bay to New York City so they can stand trial just blocks away from the scene of the deadliest terrorist assaults in American history.

Attorney General Eric Holder said Friday that he plans to seek the death penalty against all five men. He said it is important that the alleged 9/11 planners be brought to justice near the scene of the crime and in U.S. civilian courts that would be "open to the public and open to the world."

At the same time, Holder announced that five other Guantanamo detainees, including the prime suspect in the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, would be tried in military courts. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-11-13-gitmo-suspects-us-trial_N.ht m?obref=obinsite

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Amid strong opposition in Congress to moving some of the Guantanamo detainees to prisons on the U.S. mainland, the White House has not yet been able to come up with a plan that will allow it to meet the Jan. 22, 2010 deadline to close the prison, as established by Obama's order.

Congress has refused to allocate money to fund the closure and Obama administration officials are still trying to figure out what do in cases where there isn't enough evidence to try detainees but the government isn't willing to let them go. Foreign governments also have been reluctant to take detainees. http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-11-13-gitmo-suspects-us-trial_N.ht m?obref=obinsite

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Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who has repeatedly criticized Holder's decision to try Mohammed in New York, said the White House has bungled the issue from the start.

"What it shows is there was no preparation, no advance work done by the administration. It's one of the most irresponsible decisions anyone has ever made," said King.

For his part, Holder said he still expects Mohammed to be tried in a federal civilian court, but he conceded it's possible that won't happen. [URL=http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-12-sept-11-trial_N.htm?csp=34&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomWashington-TopStories+%28Ne ws+-+]http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-02-12-sept-11-trial_N.htm?csp=34&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+UsatodaycomWashington-TopStories+%28N ews+-+[/URL]  Washington+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=My+Yahoo

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It's just another "act now - think later" performance by the White House to go along with all of their other decisions. Fits in very well with their "give 'em a fair trial and then hang 'em" comments.


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1 posted 2010-02-13 05:03 PM


Yep, you'd think they would have learned a little something from watching the previous Administration - like how hard it is to get your foot out of your mouth once it's been firmly inserted.


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2 posted 2010-02-14 09:10 AM


WASHINGTON – Vice President Joe Biden says he has no doubts that professed Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (HAH'-leed shayk moh-HAH'-med) will be found guilty — whether in a civilian or military courtroom. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100214/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_biden_sept11_trial

Keep reminding the world, Joe, of the fairness of the American judicial system. The taste of shoe leather must really appeal to you.

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3 posted 2010-02-14 04:53 PM



     I find the notion of Biden saying such a thing distasteful.  It seems possible to me that information gathered by torture may not even be admissable in an American court of law.  Professing certainty in a possibly already tainted process seems foolish, as was any promise of a conviction.

     The whole issue was terribly clouded when the issue of prisoner treatment was not resolved before torture was applied as opposed to standard methods of prisoner interrogation.

[This message has been edited by Bob K (02-15-2010 02:32 AM).]

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