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Ron
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They couldn't figure out why Kerry lost. They couldn't figure out why Gore lost, by not even being able to carry his own state. Self-examination is out of the question for them. It's never because of them or their policies.

Has the opposition party done any better, Mike? We do remember the elections of 2006, right? And those of 2008? Americans made it pretty clear how they felt about Republican leadership. And yet, has anything changed in the interim? What self-examination and subsequent change have we seen in the Republican party?

We seem to be running out of choices, guys.  

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The latest Gallup poll released this morning indicate that 55% favor suspending health care reform while 39% favor continue it.

Perhaps there's the solution we should pursue. The Republicans suck. The Democrats don't seem to be doing a whole lot better. Maybe we should just put the Gallup Poll in charge of the nation?  
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We ARE running out of choices, Ron.

That's why a third party may be our only choice.

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No, Ron, the Republicans haven't done much better at all. They put up a candidate Obama couldn't lose to and the elections were more against Bush, instead of for the democrats.

To say the republicans haven't done any better ignores an important fact...Obama is supposed to be the man spearheading CHANGE. A new era in Washington. No more politics as usual. Open government. Involvement of the people. He was elected, with no experience, on that promise of change.

What they have done is show no concern for the thoughts of the people who put them there. They have ruled with an arrogant disdain and lack of interest in the public's mind. When polls indicated from the beginning that the majority of people were satisfied with their health care, it didn't matter to them. They passed the stimulus bill in the dead of night without letting the public see it first. They sneaked through cap and trade the same way, no fanfare and no public participation. They worked on health care behind closed doors with no public awareness. They made deals and payoffs to their own members to get votes on things that obviously their own members wouldn't have voted on without special deals. They have disregard the public stating that the main concern should be employment and forged on with their signature cause, health care. They have ignored the public every step of the way. No, Gallup shouldn't run the country but I don't believe you don't consider polls an important thumb on the pulse of the country and politicians who ignore that pulse could care less for the people they are supposed to be working for.

I've never seen republicans show such a disregard for public opinion or concern. Perhaps they have but no example comes to mind.

This administration doesn't think before acting. Obama swore to close Gitmo by now. He hasn't, saying that it appears to be more complicated than he thought. When the unemployment numbers continued to rise after passage of the stimulus bill, he said they didn't realize how bad the economy really was. When asked hwy the middle east peace process was going so slow, he said he didn't realize how complicated it would be. They don't stop to realize anything...they just say, "Let's do it!" and then make excuses when these non-thought out goals fall short.

The public has gotten tired of the back-door deals, the non-stop candy store spending spree, the 2000 page health care bills that congressmen don't even read before voting on, and the constant excuses and finger-pointing instead of taking responsibility. The Massachussetts vote is a barometer of that feeling. Does Obama see that? Nope....he says it's a reflection of their feelings about Bush policies. They elect a Republican to protest Bush policies....beautiful. They still can't hear the people or else they just disregard what they hear.

Obama is an inexperienced fellow who doesn't know what to do so he's trying everything at once and simply backing off of whatever doesn't work....which, so far, has been almost everything. Newt Gingrich said it best...

"As an American I am not so shocked that Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize
without any accomplishments to his name,
but that America gave him the White House based on the same credentials."

Will they pay attention to Americans now? I doubt it.....


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NEW YORK President Barack Obama's latest broadside against big banks may have more bark than bite.

Obama's plan to limit banks' size and risky trading has spooked investors, but analysts say it would have only marginal effect on institutions like JPMorgan Chase, Bank of America and Citigroup and would be hard to enforce. And it's not clear the rules would reduce taxpayers' risk of having to bail out another big bank.

Fearing the Obama plan might reduce bank earnings, investors reacted by dumping financial stocks Thursday, helping send the Dow Jones industrial average down 213 points. The pessimism continued Friday, with the Dow losing more than 216 points. Also weighing on the market were corporate earnings reports that failed to meet investors' expectations. The White House has yet to provide details of the plan outlined Thursday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100123/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul_banks

"yet to provide details".....running true to form.
 
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