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I'll have whatever Bob's drinking.
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“Climate chief was told of false glacier claims before Copenhagen .  .  .

The chairman of the leading climate change watchdog was informed that claims about melting Himalayan glaciers were false before the Copenhagen summit, The Times has learnt.

Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists.  . . .”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article7009081.ece


In accounting it’s called cooking the books
There’s too much of this coming out . . .

I’ve also read quotes from activists who say essentially
that even if the theory of man made global warming is wrong
the changes that would be brought under the threat of its predictions
would be good which summarizes to the ends justify the means.


“Dr Pacharui has also been accused of using the error to win grants worth hundreds of thousands of pounds. “

Follow the money;
which is our money going to someone else

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http://green.venturebeat.com/2010/02/08/minnesotas-frozen-turbines-raise- new-doubts-about-wind-power/

Minneapolis wind turbines freeze up in cold weather.  Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead with Global Warming initiatives!

Hybrid cars take more energy to RECHARGE than they save.  Solar panels break in any hail storm and don't function at all when covered by snow.
Wind turbine windmills freeze up.

Yep:  I'm ready to tax the hell out of businesses to pay for more of these thru Cap and Trade.

After this winter, the Cap and Tax bill is dead.  Now if we can only kill these insane premature super-expensive Green programs ...
  
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"Drill Baby Drill"
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With new newstories coming out every day discounting IGCC 'pseudo-scientists' and student papers,
- the Weather Conspiracy nuts and deniers
actually turned out to be
the Global Warming pundits!
Whodathunkit?

If only someone had warned us in the beginning that it was all for bunko money and junk science...

I am going to make a million dollars printing and selling bumper stickers that read:

           I'm  *FOR* Global Warming!  I'm Cold!!

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     It's winter, Threadbear.  It's supposed to be cold.

     It's also supposed to be dark at night.

     Distinguish between long term trends and day to day weather.  I know Rush Limbaugh hasn't yet found a way to do so, but you really do seem a bit more thoughtful.
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Bob, global 'Whatever'
will cost the US trillions of dollars,
and each day there is a new unbiased article, usually from Europe, telling us that the data on warming is largely incorrect.  Not only that NOBODY has conclusively proved MAN himself is the cause.  The best estimates I've heard is that man can only add a couple of tenths of a degree to air temperature and virtually NONE to land temperatures (soil temperature).

A trillion dollars DEMANDS THAT EVERY household or business (on average) pay $20,000 in taxes to pay for it for global warming initiatives.    

There, is that a bit more on the mature side?
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From my standpoint, building wind turbines that wont work for 50% of the year is poor engineering practice. No profiting, energy company would allow such a thing to happen, unless of course there would be a tax reduction followed by another....

Goes to show that tax cuts and refunds are not always the answer to solve problems.  

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     No, T.B., it's not.  The unbiased thing is to offer the unbiased data and allow other people to make up their minds about it.  I don't think you're trying to flummox me, but I do think you have a very particular point of view and your own particular notion of what compromises the notion of unbiased for your point of view and for my point of view.  In this, you're no different than I am, a guy who thinks he's got the right idea and who's trying to share his understanding with others.

     That's how each of us, I believe, sees himself.

     Your point of you puts you in a position where you believe that the people are being duped by unscrupulous public interests who wish to maintain themselves in power and retain control of the public treasury to enrich themselves and rob the public of their liberties.  If I have this incorrectly, I am sorry, and I welcome any correction you can offer.  It's a point that I hope to learn about in detail, and which I don't entirely understand.  I've expressed my best understanding of it, right now, in my little blurb above.

     My point of view is that the world is under the control of forces that are willing to do virtually anything to it in the long term to acquire short term profit and to retain power to continue to do so.  It is something of a traditional left wing position and goes back to John Locke and to Rousseau and the Enlightenment and sweeps to the modern day through economic philosophy including some of the old Lefties, the trade unionists, the new deal Democrats and the New Left folks during the sixties.  I had Great-grandfathers who were friendly with Eugene Debs and who ran businesses that tried to do well by their employees, and reputedly did fairly well at it.  I had some Republicans in the family as well that I learned to love and respect as well.

     Whether there is an actual problem with Global warming or not — and I emphatically think there is — I know for sure that there is an enormous problem with resources and population and pollution, and that we do need to address these things.  We do not have the resources to service the population growth we are facing, and I am amazed that we do as well at this point as we do.
Water, energy, food and fuel are at critical points right now.  I have no real idea where you live, T.B., but I live in LA, and we are highly dependent on water which is difficult to get, fuel, which can easily grow highly toxic in our particular weather and geographical situation and affect our air quality, and other specialized needs.

     Because of our highly artificial environment here, these things tend to highlight themselves in ways that they don't in other areas of the country.  But other areas of the nation have their own specific problems.  When I lived in Ohio as a child, Lake Eerie, was essentially a dead place.  You couldn't eat the fish from there, and it was over-run by lampreys in an ecological disaster of massive proportions.  We had a River catch fire at one point, which was something that any solid skeptic would have pointed as as some sort of scientific impossibility had it appeared in the bible.

     In the city where I was born, a lot of the children grew up with lung diseases.  This was the case in much of northeastern Ohio.  At the time, nobody connected it with the amount of Sulfur products and carbon particulates dumped into the atmosphere from the various industrial plants in the area.  I had Asbestos dump-sites in nearby neighborhoods and near my playgrounds.  I was given several series of  radiation treatments for problems with my adenoids.  Everybody trusted their doctors for everything.

     I learned some of my lessons by looking around and noticing that things weren't as perfect as everybody claimed they were.  This is a hard set of lessons to unlearn for me, Threadbear.  I want people to prove things to me before I start accepting that the ways that people have been selling me as great should be believed once again.  I want data, and I want it from people who haven't sold me the same old stuff I grew up with, who suggested that everybody should smoke a lot, and that it was great for you, and the bus fumes that made me cough when they belched in my face were really fine, even when they made me have asthma attacks.

     So when you want me to accept your suggestions about the non-existence of global warming, what I hear is the same voice as those tobacco firms who kept saying that 8 out of 10 doctors thought that smoking Chesterfields was wonderful, and put Arthur Godfrey on the radio to say it, right up until Arthur Godfrey got lung cancer and couldn't be bought off.

     And then I want you to tell me what you've got in mind for the population and environmental issues that we've got to face that are likely to put us at war with each other for dwindling resources like oil and coal and water in the near future as the population continues to rise.  We've got to be using something other than oil and coal for energy, and it seems likely that, if you don't want to be pressing the panic button every time a third world country whose views make you nervous wants to turn to nuclear power, we'd best be starting to look at a bunch of non nuclear options as well.  Maybe they're looking to build a bomb in Iran, maybe not, but every third world country in the future that needs a power source won't be, and if you don't want to panic when they ask for a nuclear power station, we'd probably better have some real options to offer them that won't leave potentially fissionable fuel rods laying ready for harvesting all over the ground, ready for any potential terrorist to come by with a pocketful of five dollar bills.  Perhaps now wouldn't be a bad time to put some money into creating some high quality wind turbines, second or third generation; or fifth or sixth, if that's what it takes.  Or do you plan to keep panicking for the next hundred years or so, when Guatemala wants a nuclear power plant?
    
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Bob Bob Bob
You are forcing me to do two things I don't like to do:  
1) type on this d*mn laptop.  Who the heck ever designed laptops WITH THE KEYBOARD 5 INCHES AWAY FROM THE FRONT??  Gad, do they think I have werewolf long fingers?

2) I hate this subject of Global Whatever you want to call it.  In the 70's, the progressives were shouting Fear from the rooftops; warning of the coming Ice Age that was right around the corner!~

Bob, suffice it to say that I've studied this subject to death.  Climatology reports on a scientific level are the most BORING things i've ever read (except for some Actuarial Reports.)  It's all done with 'modeling' since they can't see into the future.  Yet, Global Hysteria is all about 'what will happen in the future.'  In other words, it's speculation.

There's a famous scene in the Al Gore movie where they show this huge glacier shedding huge chunks of ice, in an effort to prove thru visual evidence that water levels MUST be getting higher because the north glaciers are melting.  Later on, after research, I found out that ANY photographer can go to the outer edge of the glaciers at any time in history and snap pictures of glaciers breaking apart.  It's what they do:  move, slam into each other, push ice into warmer water, etc.  

The Himilayan mountain report that Al Baby referred to was collaborated by two sources:  one was a student with a project paper not in his major; the other was anecdotal evidence given by some mountain climbers in Climbing magazine.  Now, how they knew what the ice looked like 50 YEARS AGO BEFORE THEY WERE CLIMBING is beyond me, but they said that the ice appears further up on the mountain now.  That was enough to get it passed onto the GSM Global Summit Meetings and get it into the IPCC report.  One of the heads of IPCC, some Indian buffoon that has since been discredited, approved this, and attributed it to man made C02, even though there was no cause and effect EVER alleged in that direction.

I've studied dry cell batteries, hydrogen fission car power; solar panels; turbine windmills; 'clean coal', you name it.  It's the biggest Hoax EVER perpretraited upon Mankind, effecting more people if legislation is passed than any legislation in the world's history; AND it's the most expensive bit of conjecture, estimated to cost globally in the neighborhood of $10 trillion to implement the Summit's ideas (and that is without China or India participating.)  

Yeah, I'm probably way too partisan on this subject, but being a Libertarian, I feel everyone is entitled to their opinion.  You're free to believe in whatever you want to believe.  ('you' being all people)
Only thing is:  don't shove your global warming hysteria down my throat
and definitely don't charge me $20,000 for the right to do it!!
('you' being the Government of the Obama, by the Obama, for the Obama)
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     Nuclear Winter may be what you're talking about, Threadbear; is it?  As opposed to global warming?  Do you feel that there are two different theories showing two different things, so that they both may be false, is that it?  Not being a scientist myself, I couldn't say with any certainty, but I do believe the two things talk about different phenomena.  I certainly may be wrong, but the way I understand it is this way.

     Nuclear Winter talks about what may happen after a large scale nuclear exchange.  Following large scale volcanic events, such as the east indian eruption of Krakatoa in the 1880's, enormous clouds of dust and debris were thrown into the atmosphere.  For two or three years following, because of the dust clouds, the amount of light that came through from the sun was cut down drastically world wide.  These were years that were essentially without summers.  Crop cycles were thrown off and world temperatures plummeted.  Because it was fairly short term, the damage passed fairly quickly, but there was some serious climatological disturbance.  The theory is that a serious nuclear exchange using 100 megaton devices would throw up significant amounts of dust that would stay in the atmosphere for quite possibly longer than the two or three years that came after the incident in the east Indies.  The shift might be enough to reset the set point of the earth's temperature reading for a significant amount of time leading to an actual Nuclear Winter.  At a minimum, it would create a spectacular bunch of sunsets for quite a long time, and it may well put enough radiation into the air and water to make it difficult if not impossible for humans to maintain their position in the earth's ecological structure.  The next top of the line might be roaches.  Perhaps this is over-estimating the effects, perhaps not; in any case, it would be an extremely foolish guy who'd want to put the matter to any sort of test.

     Global warming is still the best theory we have to explain the consequences of continued use of fossil fuels at the level we are now maintaining them.  American Conservatives such as yourself maintain that the theory is wrong, but on the whole offer exactly the sort of data that you do.  Little of it is peer-reviewed scientific data, and much of it data produced by folks who work for people who institutions controlled by petroleum and fossil fuel producing companies.  Almost all the of information appeals to the pocket-book — which is very important indeed — without much effort to actually base itself in research.  It does make an effort to smear researchers and spread stories about the research without necessarily offering solid sources for the stories, or giving the full stories involved.

     As in your case, the stress is often on how everybody's opinions are equal.  

     Everyone's opinions, alas, are not equal.  Your doctor's opinion about what your blood test says and means and your opinion of what your blood test says and means have different values that vary with the amount of information and understanding that each of you has about what the blood test measures and means, and with how honest each of you wishes to be about what you understand, and with how much reality either of you can tolerate for whatever your various reasons.

     How this differs on subjects such as global warming, nuclear winter or ecological disaster is something I don't understand.  My understanding is that it doesn't.  I don't assume that this cuts in my favor or yours if I look at it in principle; but of course, each of us will disagree as to the validity when it comes to actual practice, won't we?  I would hardly suggest that this is something that calls for addressing me as "Bob Bob Bob," under those circumstances, although you seem to disagree.  I think that's a pity.

     I don't think your political position should matter very much, any more than mine should, in the face of the need to look at the best as opposed to the most convenient evidence.  I have no particular wish to be under a larger burden of governmental controls than you do; nor do I, in actuality, believe that I do wish such a thing.

     My belief is that part of our difference is in where those controls should be.  I want controls off of personal rights and freedoms, you seem to want them off of economic options for change and growth.  Again, if I misunderstand, I would appreciate your correction in the matter.  The actual amount of control appears to me to be about the same.  Both of us would wish for a resilient and strong military, though I suspect we would wish it used differently.

     I believe that the planet is in danger from population growth and scarcity of strategic resources that needs  be addressed before it spills over into a predictable open global warfare.  Too many people, not enough resources.  My perception is that you see these coming conflicts as ideological.  Again, I await your corrections; I want to understand what you're saying.

     I have a lot of differences with you and Huan Yi and Mike, but I think that on these areas we see a lot of things in common — at least the need to address some of these conflict areas.  I think we have more to contribute to each other's ability to look at and understand problem than otherwise, and that we have become enmeshed in looking at petty side struggles rather than looking at what needs to be done to help our country and our world survive.  But I really think that putting efforts on figuring out what we need to do as a whole rather that what we need to get the other folks to stop doing is the better way to go.

     Of the people, by the people and for the people, oddly enough, works better for me.  For my own personal taste, the President is too far to the Right, but that shouldn't be the issue.  The issue should be, how do we keep breathing and eating, and raising kids, and having potable water and trying to treat each other with some sort of mutual respect.  That wouldn't be so bad, would it?  hen, maybe, how can we get Guatemala that power plant without worrying that the Guatemalans aren't going to blow us up in the process?
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Hey, Bob, no I'm not talking about Nuclear Winter.  I'm talking about:
cover story Time magazine 1974:
"Monday, Jun. 24, 1974 -Another Ice Age?" http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,944914,00.html
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
and
"The Myth of the 1970s Global Cooling Scientific Consensus" http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0477/89/9/pdf/i1520-0477-89-9-1325.pdf
in which the AMS American Meterological System shoots down the 70's prediction.  

[This message has been edited by threadbear (02-10-2010 10:56 PM).]

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Meanwhile the Mid-Atlantic states are set to have their most snow on record.

Or has anyone noticed?


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I have. I never want to see snow again after this winter.
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Major storms and unusual weather patterns are exactly what should be expected as a result of global warming/global climate change. The Mid-Atlantic states are buried in snow while here in the north in snow country, where we’d usually have six foot snow banks this time of year, the ground is totally bare.

Our Winter Festival has been cancelled because there’s not enough of the white stuff to make a single snowman. And that makes me all pouty.

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Send some folks down here to take as much as you want!
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Thanks for the offer Denise but there’s been a change in plans. Instead of a Winter Festival with ice and snow sculptures, we’re pulling out the barbies and having a Winter Wiener Roast with gooey, yummy, S’mores.

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"global warming/global climate change".

global cooling/ global so so/global whatever
it takes . . .

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Sorry, Huan Yi, I'm not getting what you're trying to say. Could you elaborate a bit, please?
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Whatever it takes to try to prop up a bogus 'crisis' in order to gain more power over people and fleece their pockets even further.
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Ah, I see. So global climate change is some sort of conspiracy and the perps somehow managed to get that something like 90 per cent of world climatologists (those I mentioned in my question to Balladeer in his twice told thread) to all go along with the hoax.

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Whether or not we as humans are radically changing the environment - Global warming is used as an excuse to manipulate the public to accept taxation and US interference in the global economy that hasn't been seen since the early 1900s.

The irony is that many of these plans by the government don't solve the problem, but makes it worse. Perhaps I will start a new subject on this.  Sorta different.

  

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"Global warming is used as an excuse to manipulate the public to accept taxation and US interference in the global economy"

Gosh darn it all, another conspiracy! Those perps are gonna be frog marchin' off to the slammer before they can say Sean Hannity!

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So, since, in 2008, the Bush Administration released a climate assessment report, a global warming warning, (quoted in part below) and the Bush Administration came before Obama’s, would it be fair to assume the Bush Administration was in on the conspiracy or set up the hoax? Maybe they were the Grand Poobah Perps?

"[M]ost of the recent global warming is very likely due to human generated increases in greenhouse gas concentrations," the report states. "[E]missions of carbon dioxide from fossil fuel use and from the effects of land use change are the primary sources of this increase."

[I]t is very likely that the human-induced increase in greenhouse gases has contributed to the increase in sea surface temperatures in the hurricane formation regions. There is a strong statistical connection between tropical Atlantic sea surface temperatures and Atlantic hurricane activity as measured by an index that accounts for storm intensity, frequency, and duration on decadal timescales over the past 50 years. This evidence suggests a substantial human contribution to recent hurricane activity.
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Jennifer,
read the link above i provided about the Myth of 70's global cooling.

...point being, you said 90percent of climatologists agree, so why are we doubting them?

Well, they did it before (being drastically wrong)
and it appears
that they are doing it again!
They predicted the end of the world as we know it, back then.  

As far as Global Whatever:  I'm not buying it, especially from folks with a record of being constantly and assumptively wrong.
 
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