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http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/wm2651.cfm http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/top-five-reasons-the-bauc_b_289380.html http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/16/obamacare-health-care-business-healthcare-baucus-faq.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574471292249934348.html http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/baucus-billed-booed-obama-rally

There links are all for people against the Baucus HEath Care Plan... even the Huffington Post and a Pro-Obama rally were against it....
I guess President Obama did bring both sides together after all...
I only wonder if the ones we elected to represent us are going to listen.

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I found this to be curious...

He (Reid) will keep meeting with senators this week to see if he can work out a political formula that will give him not only the 60 votes needed to begin debate, but the 60 needed to shut off discussion and bring the bill to a final vote. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091109/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_overhaul

I read a little fear into that fact. Reid wants NO debate  over the health care bill. He just wants it slipped through like the stimulus and cap and trade. Apparently C-Span would not be that welcome reporting actual debates over the nuts and bolts of the bill. Whenever points are brought up that makes Reid or the Democrats uncomfortable he can simply call for a vote to end the discussion. These are the people wowrking for our benefit??? Not in this lifetime....
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I found this to be curious...


I didn't, it's a standard and well established part of the political process Mike - what makes it so curious?

Reid wants the necessary three-fifths (60) votes to allow a motion for cloture to be presented if an attempt to filibuster is made. It doesn't stop the debate it sets a limit on the amount of time a bill can be held up if the majority believe that the bill deserves to be voted on.

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Whenever points are brought up that makes Reid or the Democrats uncomfortable he can simply call for a vote to end the discussion


Actually it isn't that simple Mike, and it certainly doesn't end the discussion as abruptly as you suggest.

If he can get 16 Senators to sign a petition for cloture Reid can interrupt any speech to present the petition. The petition is read out and then put aside and the debate continues for up to 30 hours. The next day a quorum is called and the Senators vote on the cloture motion, which requires a minimum three-fifths (60 vote) majority.

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