Ok, I'm confused. Where do they have higher ratings ifthey can't get distribution?
Sorry I don't have much time right now Mike -- I'm going to have to just do some c&p for now.
The commercial use of public airwaves is supposed to reflect the diversity of the local community, but that’s not how it works in Washington. On the AM dial, WMAL (630) features wall-to-wall conservative talk. So do stations WTNT (570) and WHFS (1580). For the past two years, OBAMA 1260 — even with a weak signal that cannot be heard in downtown Washington — was the exception. No longer. Starting tomorrow, our nation’s capital, where Democrats control the House, the Senate and the White House, and where Democrats outnumber Republicans 10 to one, will have no progressive voices on the air.
Or maybe one.
To mollify critics, Red Zebra has said it will add Ed Schultz to its conservative lineup on 570 AM. This means Shultz will be outgunned in this market by at least 15 conservative talkers: Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, Chris Plante, Michael Smerconish, Michael Savage, Andy Parks, Fred Grandy, Bill Bennett, Monica Crowley, Bill O’Reilly, Dennis Miller and Lars Larsen. No matter how good Schultz is, that’s not a fair contest — nor a fair use of the public airwaves.
Unfortunately, what’s happening in Washington reflects what has happened in one city after another across the country. In Miami, Clear Channel recently dumped progressive talk for sports: Clear Channel stations made the same move in San Diego and Cincinnati. Sacramento abandoned progressive talk for gospel music. In fact, according to a study released by the Center for American Progress and Free Press, there are nine hours of conservative talk for every one hour of progressive talk.
Why? Station owners complain they can’t get good ratings or make any money with progressive talk, but that’s nonsense. In Minnesota, independent owner Janet Robert has operated KTNF (950 AM) profitably for five years. In Madison, Wis., WXXM, 92.1 FM, just scored its highest ratings ever. And KPOJ in Portland, Ore., soared with progressive talk from No. 23 in market ratings to No. 1. Nationwide, progressive talkers Randi Rhodes, Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller have proven that, given a level playing field, they can more than hold their own in ratings — and make money for their stations.
In fact, the only reason there’s not more competition on American airwaves is that the handful of companies that own most radio stations do everything they can to block it. In many markets — witness Philadelphia, Boston, Providence and Houston — they join in providing no outlet for progressive talk. In others, as in Washington, they limit it to a weak signal, spend zero dollars on promotion and soon pull the plug. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/local-opinions/2009/02/right-wing_radio_conspiracy.ht ml
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Revival of liberal talk in 2004
The dominance of conservative talk radio caused concern among some liberals, who viewed it as an integral part of promoting conservative policies and Republican Party candidates. After the failure of i.e. America, Democratic Party supporters conducted conversations with syndicators about how to a develop a left-wing alternative to right-wing talk radio. With the aid of private investors, two projects came to fruition in early 2004.
The first was the January 2004 debut of The Ed Schultz Show, featuring a "meat eating, gun-toting lefty" out of Fargo, North Dakota. Created and produced by Democracy Radio and distributed by large radio syndicator Jones Radio Networks, the show picked up 70 stations by the end of its first year of syndication. The second project was the March 31, 2004 launch of Air America Radio, a left-leaning full-service talk radio network. The fledgling network started with only a handful of stations, mostly lower power AM signals. Early financial difficulties led to the loss of affiliates in Los Angeles and Chicago.
Air America's original flagship affiliate, WLIB in New York, had some early ratings success despite a modest signal. In their first month, their midday block featuring Al Franken drew more listeners in the demographic category desired by advertisers than competing stations featuring Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly.
Another original Air America affiliate was KPOJ, a struggling AM station in Portland, Oregon with a 25 KW signal but an underperforming oldies format. They ran the entire Air America lineup with one exception, replacing the early "Unfiltered" show (with Rachel Maddow) with Schultz's afternoon show on a time-delay — a schedule that several other stations would soon emulate — and called the format "Progressive Talk". In its first ratings period following the switch, KPOJ went from the bottom to being one of the market's top-rated stations. The station's owner, media giant Clear Channel Communications, decided to roll out the format on many of their other struggling AMs across the country. More than 20 of their stations switched to progressive talk within the following year, which included major markets such as Los Angeles, Boston, Washington DC, Detroit, Seattle, and Miami.
By early 2006, approximately 90 stations were carrying at least part of the Air America lineup. The growth of the format created opportunities for additional programming. Democracy Radio and Jones Radio rolled out shows hosted by Stephanie Miller in September 2004. Bill Press launched in (September 2005). Established hosts such as Alan Colmes and Lionel saw increases in the number of affiliates carrying their shows. On September 1, 2006 Air America's flagship station moved to WWRL.
 Liberal talk radio, 2007-present
After its growth spurt in 2004-2006, the liberal talk format had some setbacks. In the months following the November 2006 elections, Clear Channel changed several of its progressive talk stations to other formats, most notably in Boston. Their announced plan to change the format in Madison, Wisconsin was dropped as the result of a successful listener campaign, but a similar campaign to get the station to retain the format did not work in Columbus, Ohio. An unrelated Columbus station (WVKO) picked up the liberal talk programming later that year. Air America filed for bankruptcy in October 2006, and was sold to new investors in February 2007, though they maintained operations during that time. Air America's highest-rated host, Al Franken, left in February 2007 to run for Senate and was replaced on the network by Thom Hartmann live in the noon-3 PM ET daypart. Hartmann has held Franken's ratings in most markets, regularly beating O'Reilly in Los Angeles, and beating Limbaugh in Portland and Seattle in 2007 and 2008.
Currently, there are fewer than 100 U.S. commercial radio stations carrying liberal talk programs, compared to around 600 stations for Rush Limbaugh, 500 for Sean Hannity etcetera.
Major-market stations carrying liberal talk now use a variety of sources for their programming, choosing some Air America shows, some syndicated shows, and some locally-produced shows. The weekday schedule of KTLK in Los Angeles consists of Rachel Maddow from Air America, syndicated hosts Alan Colmes and Bill Press, former Air America host Thom Hartmann, along with Stephanie Miller's syndicated show, which counts KTLK as its flagship station and broadcasts from the station's studios. KTLK airs a number of local, non-syndicated weekend shows.
Notable stations with progressive talk using entirely local programming include KGO in San Francisco and KIRO in Seattle.
Premiere Radio Networks, Clear Channel's national syndication division and home to Rush Limbaugh, signed its first liberal host in 2009. Clear Channel-owned WJNO personality Randi Rhodes, who had been dropped from both Air America and the now-defunct Nova M Radio, will return to the airwaves on May 11th of that year on the satellites of Premiere, with Clear Channel's Progressive Talk stations, many of which previously carried Rhodes' show, serving as the linchpin of a national syndication effort.
 Internet and satellite
The internet has become an important factor in the distribution of progressive talk programming, with many radio stations streaming their schedules, and most individual shows available through podcasting. Air America Radio's webstream has consistently ranked in the top ten of most-listened to webcast stations and networks. When podcasts became available through iTunes, Al Franken's show was the second-most popular. Smaller providers of liberal radio shows such as Head On Radio Network have made streaming and podcasting integral to their operations.
Both U.S. satellite radio providers carry one channel of liberal talk. XM channel 167, which formerly carried the complete unaltered Air America schedule, now includes Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz, Bill Press, Randi Rhodes, and Mike Malloy. Sirius channel 146 fills their schedule with syndicated hosts such as Hartmann, Schultz, Miller, Press, and Malloy.
Liberal Talk Hosts:
* Doug Basham (RadioLinx)
* Russ Belville (Jones Radio Networks)
* David Bender (Air America Radio)
* Alex Bennett (Sirius Satellite Radio)
* Alan Colmes (Fox News Radio)
* Jack Ellery (WCTC, New Brunswick, NJ)
* Jon Elliot (Air America Radio)
* Laura Flanders (Air America Radio)
* Sam Greenfield (WVNJ Oakland, NJ)
* Thom Hartmann (Dial Global – previously with Air America Radio)
* Jim Hightower (still provides syndicated radio commentaries)
* Karel (KGO, San Francisco, CA)
* Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (Air America Radio)
* Yoav Kutner (Tel Aviv Radio)
* Bob Kincaid (Head On Radio Network)
* Lionel (Air America Radio)
* Rachel Maddow (Air America Radio)
* Mike Malloy (Self Syndicated)
* Jay Marvin (KKZN, Denver, CO)
* Stephanie Miller (Dial Global – previously with Jones Radio Networks)
* Mike Newcomb (RadioLinx)
* Mike Papantonio (Air America Radio)
* Bill Press (Dial Global – previously with Jones Radio Networks)
* Lee Rayburn (WXXM, Madison, WI)
* Randi Rhodes (Premiere Radio Networks)
* Neil Rogers (WQAM, Miami, FL)
* Lynn Samuels (Sirius Satellite Radio)
* Ed Schultz (Dial Global – previously with Jones Radio Networks)
* Sam Seder (Air America Radio)
* Harry Shearer (National Public Radio)
* Michelangelo Signorile (Sirius Satellite Radio)
* Ray Taliaferro (KGO, San Francisco, CA)
* Mark Thompson (Sirius Satellite Radio)
* Tony Trupiano (Syndicated Solutions Radio Network)
* Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, Dave Koller and guest host Ben Mankiewicz of The Young Turks (Air America Radio)
* Bree Walker (KTLK), Los Angeles, CA)
* Bernie Ward (KGO, San Francisco, CA)
* Peter Werbe (WRIF, Detroit, MI)
Ah, I see. That is you description of the millions who watch FOX. WHy am I not surprised?
Now I'm confused. If they're watching Dancing With The Stars -- how are they watching Fox? No. That's my description of what you're calling 'the public'. And you can't have it both ways -- if Fox is so popular -- that makes it Main Stream. Same thing for Limbaugh with his 15 million (angry white man) army -- it's a tiny fraction of the country Mike.
If you're litmus test for 'truth' is how many people listen or watch -- then the 'truth' in aggregate is in a lot of other places -- but that's silly, and we've discussed all that recently.
That's about all I have time for tonite Feel better!