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Balladeer
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175 posted 10-25-2009 11:02 AM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

only your viewpoint, grinch

On an interesting sidenote, This Week with George Stephanopolous had on their round table discussion this morning Laura Ingraham, Fox news contributor. Such a beautiful thing...I cannot remember in recent history any Fox personality being included in the round table. Coincidence that this happened right after Obama's declared war on Fox? LOL...wonder if Barack felt the knifeblade slide between his ribs
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I was surprised to see her on there too.
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I’ve seen the phrase “Chicago Way”  used a number of times
in articles I’ve read.  There’s that, but “The Peter Principle”
I think is also at play here.   Obama comes from a world where
word games can bring power and prosperity especially
when you’re preaching to the choir.  As president he and
his chosen ones are dealing with a very different congregation
and they’re proving just simply not up to it.

By the way, I would every day push Charles Krauthammer
ten miles in his chair up hills over gravel roads to learn from him.

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quote:

As president he and
his chosen ones are dealing with a wholly different congregation
and they’re proving just simply not up to it.



quote:

Here's an interesting little fact from our national poll this week:

Barack Obama's approval rating with people who didn't vote for him is 14%.

Barack Obama's disapproval rating with people who voted for him is 6%.

So he's won over twice as many people as he's lost since he got elected. Who in the national media is going to write that story? Not bad for someone whose support is supposedly falling apart.


The Wall Street Journal ranked PPP as one of the top swing state pollsters in the country last year. (11-6-08 WSJ)

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/10/obamas-numbers.html



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Dear John,

         I would rather hear what you have to say.  Fascinating as you may find Mr. Krauthammer, what you have to say seems more genuine to me.  Even Mr. Hanson, the whose writing seems wonderful and, depending on the subject, fascinating as well, and well worth the reading, would be a distant second.  And I do buy Mr. Hanson's books, occasionally even a political rant, simply to enjoy his prose and the superb quality of his invective and sarcasm when he's ranting, and for his lucidity and the joy of his exposition when he's talking about Greek Hoplite Warfare.

     He has something of your authenticity as well.  I don't agree with him on politics any more than I do with you, but I admire the person I believe I see behind the writing.

     There are healthier ways to get your exercise, I'd suspect.

Sincerely, Bob Kaven
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180 posted 10-25-2009 05:09 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

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“Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years
The decline in Barack Obama's popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html

Which few even he I imagine is unaware of . . .

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     I have to agree with you, John, and with The Telegraph, that a decline from 78% to 52% is astonishing.

     Of course, I don't recall that 78% actually voted for him, did they?  And I suspect that the actual popularity would depend on whom it was measured against and what issues were brought up.  In my quick scan of the article, I don't recall which organization ran the actual poll, although I'd be inclined to say that the numbers seem about right, at least on some dimensions.

     I don't know how curious about more details on this matter you'd be?

My best, Bob Kaven
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It was a Gallup poll Bob.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/popularity.php

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WHo can say? I don't what our national poll LR cites means either. I wasn't aware we had a national poll.

His ratings have dropped dramatically, no matter how you paint them.

The Gallup poll Grinch points out shows  that the ratings have gone from 68-23-21 on 1/23 to 54-39-7 on 10/22, the numbers being approval-disapproval-unsure.
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quote:
68-23-21 on 1/23 to 54-39-7 on 10/22


I might be wrong Mike but doesn't 68-23-21 add up to 112%

Did they ask some Canadians perchance?


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I don't what  our national poll LR cites means either. I wasn't aware we had a national poll



WE don't.  You'll notice that is a citation properly linked to its source -- Public Policy Polling  which is selected specifically because it is highly praised by the WSJ -- a conservative NEWSpaper -- published by your hero -- Rupert Murdoch.
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No, grinch, no Canadians - just me with a little dyslexia kicking in

make that 68-12-21 (as, of course, you checked)
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187 posted 10-25-2009 07:58 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

LR, your link only pointed to a website that said the exact thing you copied and pasted. Where is the actual poll?
ah, never mind...too complicated for my brain right now.

Be well....
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You're right Mike, and I apologize -- I didn't realize their blog doesn't link back to their main site:
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/
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     It would be interesting to know what it was they disapproved of, no matter what the figures are.  I think there are probably quite a number of theories running around about that, from both left and right, and would be fascinating to have hard data.  It would tell us so much about the electorate, and so much about the parties as well, and how they approach the electorate — whether their approaches are based on one or another sort of reading of the electorate.  All sorts of interesting things to think about in that.
 
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