Not allegations, Bob...facts..and they already have been displayed here. They were in a video in the thread where Jennifer was defending Rhodes Scholar Rachel...perhaps you missed it?
Actually, I did miss it. But having looked at it, I didn't see "thousands of protesters" waving kill Bush signs, and if you are making reference to the same video, Mike, neither did you. I saw perhaps ten such signs, for which I feel the same disapproval I feel for seeing the same sort of signs directed at Obama. I think incitement to violence is disgusting, no matter who does it.
I saw a lot of comparisons of Bush to Hitler. I believe there are grounds to make that comparison, while there are not such grounds with Obama. I understand you disagree with me.
1) Pursuit of a policy of preemptive aggression, as was Bush's policy with Iraq, was an echo of Hitler's foreign policy. It does not mark Obama's.
2) Fabrication of excuses for aggression against an enemy already chosen for attack, as was Bush's policy with Iraq and his his fabrication of such items as armed killer drones already tested by Saddam Hussein; fabrication of close relationships with Al Qaida within Iraq itself; fabrication of meetings with Al Qaida operatives in foreign countries; fabrication of connection between Iraq and the World Trade Center bombers; fabrication of data about yellow cake uranium; fabrication about data on steel tubing — the purpose of all of this being to build a convincing case for invasion of Iraq.
Hitler also indulged in such fabrications, most notably the staging of phony cross border raids by Poles on German radio stations that Hitler used as justification for the invasion of Poland.
Obama has done nothing like this in his foreign policy. Indeed, he has been somewhat on the slow side to push for more troop movement into new territory. This has its own problems, admittedly, but it is not part of a fascist pattern, is it?
3) Both Hitler and Bush made hash out of the Geneva conventions. Both Hitler and Bush made active use of torture in their contact with civilian populations. Bush did this notably in his early contacts in Iraq, when he had Iraqis arrested on suspicion of being connected with with Al Qaida. There was apparently no Al Qaida presence in Iraq at all for at least a few years after that point, and then only in the form of a localized resistance movement. Al Qaida and the local religious structure, it appears, were almost completely at odds; they hated each other.
All those arrested by the Bush administration on suspicion of being part of Al Qaida, therefore, were innocent. Those that were tortured served to alienate the other Iraqis against us, and to qualify President Bush, like Hitler, as a war criminal. Neither one, of course, has been brought to trial.
In the course of this particular war, the number of civilian casualties has been terrible. Some estimates have placed them on the low side as being at about 35,000 killed. More reputable estimates have gone to more than 20 times that number. Lancet has published some of the figures, though the figures are now old; you could check them if you wish. This doesn't actually qualify as genocide, of which hitler was guilty. It does qualify as something like mass murder.
There is no evidence that Obama is guilty of any such thing at this point in his administration.
4) Both Hitler and Bush were radical right wing politicians. Obama is center-left.
I think the comparisons could go on, but I believe I've made my point.
To call for anybody's death is an incitement to violence, and I believe it to be wrong, whether it is Bush or Obama. I frankly have my personal doubts about Hitler as well, though I understand that such a stand makes me a very unpopular fellow indeed. I base my doubts on what I believe to be my basic inability to actually go ahead and actually damage another person, no matter how much I dislike them. I don't know if this is a basic moral position or not for me, I simply have never been able to do it. I lack the hate necessary to overcome my empathy.
Anyway, the facts that you assert have not, by my examination, proven to be facts. While the video was filled with lots of images equating Bush and Hitler, lots and lots and lots of images, there were only about ten of the actual death comments. There weren't even enough to equal the number of equations with Hitler, Mike.
I think it must have felt like there were "thousands"of death threat waving protesters when you saw the video, Mike, But there were only about ten repulsive signs. I haven't kept track of the ones directed at Obama. I don't watch that much tv news.
Sincerely, Bob Kaven