Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
Bob, of course it's a political issue. Of course you will deny it with dying breath but the fact of the matter is that, with a Democratic president, there would have been no Abu Ghrab in the headlines, nor any mistreatments at Gitmo....and, if by some chance there were some small mention of them, democrats would have downplayed it to the point it would have been a non-issue. Tell me that the ridiculous actions of a few low-ranking soldiers at Abu Grabh would have caused you to go after Clinton, had he been president at the time, with the same venom you went after Bush. Tell me that it would have caused you to refer to our military and country on an even keel with Hitler and the Viet Cong.
Please tell me how only a Democrat could make such a statement
Simple. That's the democrat standard m.o. You want to know why conservative talk shows get all of the ratings, Bob? It's because they are positive about America. It's because they speak of the good points about the country and why people should be proud to be a part of it. Hannity conducts continual Freedom tours (non-political) that attract millions to enjoy music from top groups singing songs about the goodness of America. Beck goes on tour with the same typle of thing. Should you ever listen to Limbaugh or any of them (and I suspect you do) you will hear pure support for our military and America.
What does one hear from the democrats? One hears what is bad about the military, what is bad about the country, how our fighting soldiers are no better than the Nazis who rounded up Jews and shot them in the streets. One hears about all of the things that are wrong with the government (as long as a Republican is in power, of course), how hell is waiting for our handbasket, how we are an uncaring mob of elitists, preying on the misfortunes of the poor and how we should be ashamed of ourselves. Check it out for yourself sometime. Listen to an hour of a liberal talk show and an hour of a conservative talk show and keep count of how many times negativity has been said about the country, not the government in charge, but the country itself and it's people. The comparison won't even be close. How only a democrat could male your statements? Easy...they are the only ones who feel that way.
I love my country, but what we've done to Iraq has been less than Praiseworthy. To you, maybe but there are actually quite a few Iraqis who disagree with you. Right now millions are not living under the terrorist regime that consisted of knocks on the doors in the dead of night, secret prisons, mass graves, gassing towns to kill thousands at a time. Are there still problems? Of course, but in a situation like that, successfully remaking the government of a country does not come overnight. Based on history, it takes well over a decade and yet, according to your earlier statement, Iraq seems to be well under control already. Less than praiseworth? Once again, it would take a democrat to say that. Under a democrat president, it would have been a wonderful achievement.
You don't have to be a Democrat or a Liberal to have your stomach turn over at the thought of water-boarding somebody, or of allowing someone to be tortured to death when they are under the protection of your custody.
How many instances of that do you recall happening, Bob? How many people were tortured to death under protection of custody? How many waterboarding issues were there and what were the consequences to the prisoners as a result of such tactics? You have no problem throwing around rhetoric like "stomach turning despicable torture tactics that compare us to the most vile henious in history....due to what? I can tell you what, Bob...politics, pure and simple.
You ought to try reading some of their literature some time, eating some of their food, looking at some of their paintings, reading some of their philosophers or visiting some of their sculpture.
...and you should try inquiring before making such a statement. I lived in France, Bob, in Strassbourg. I've slept on the Left Bank. toured the Louvre, gone to Notre Dame and marched in parades on Bastille Day. Can you say the same? I also spent a lot of time in the small towns, far away from the bright lights of Pigalle. What do I think about the people? I like them very much. They are like people everywhere with the same wishes to live a happy existence. They love their food, love their wine, and have a joy of life. Would I like for America to live under the same government the French do? No. Would I trade my life for theirs? No. Does it concern me whether they like me or not? No. If you wish to call that disdain, go ahead....just another insult missing it's mark.
Actually, you haven't responded even now.
Bob, I'll respond to any questions I feel valid and any comments I consider worthy of a return comment. You, of course, have the right to do the same. If you want my participation in a Bash the Military campaign or Nazi-like comparison with our troops and commanders, you're wasting you time directing comments towards me. If you want to paint America as a torture-loving society run amok that should be ashamed of it's existence, you'll have to do it without me.