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Reformed Harry and Louise call for Reform

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Local Rebel
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, July 16, 2009
  
Washington, D.C. – Harry and Louise, the iconic middle class couple that helped to defeat the Clinton health care reform proposal, will be back on television – this time in support of health care reform.

Harry and Louise will be featured in a multi-million dollar television ad campaign, which will start this weekend and run for at least three weeks. The ad will appear on national cable and network news programs as well as the Sunday talk shows.

The ad campaign is the product of a collaboration between Families USA, the national organization for health care consumers, and the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA), which represents America’s leading brand-name pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies.

“The participation of Harry and Louise in this ad campaign clearly symbolizes how different the health reform debate is this year compared to the past,” said Ron Pollack, Executive Director of Families USA. “With health coverage increasingly unaffordable, health reform is not a luxury, but an absolute necessity, for America’s families.”

“Every single person in America, regardless of their income, should have access to affordable, high-quality health care coverage and services,” said PhRMA President and CEO Billy Tauzin. “This is a historic opportunity for change, and working together, we can achieve our goal, which will benefit both patients and the U.S. economy.”


http://harryandlouise.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhJQ5Viya7U
http://harryandlouisereturn.com/
Huan Yi
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“Government fraud has been in the news lately because analysts are expecting major abuses of the Obama administration’s $787 billion stimulus plan. One Deloitte expert argued that “swindlers, con men, and thieves could siphon off as much as $50 billion” of stimulus funds, which are vulnerable because policymakers are under pressure to shovel it out the door quickly.

Even more troubling is the potential for fraud and abuse created by President Obama’s other big spending proposals — particularly his giant health-care plan. Obama wants to inject hundreds of billions more tax dollars into federal health care instead of fundamentally reforming Medicare and Medicaid — broken programs that are already subject to Madoff-sized larceny. That is incredibly unfair to those of us paying the bills. . . .

Take Medicare. The Government Accountability Office reports that the program makes about $17 billion in improper payments each year. And that doesn’t include problems in the new $60-billion-per-year prescription-drug plan, which is a juicy target for criminals. Harvard University’s Malcolm Sparrow, a specialist in health-care fraud, recently testified to Congress that official estimates are “lacking in rigor,” are “comfortingly low and quite misleading,” and exclude many kinds of fraud and abuse. He thinks that as much as 20 percent of the federal health-care budget is consumed by fraud, which would be $85 billion a year for Medicare.

Medicare makes a staggering 1.2 billion electronic payments each year, making it highly vulnerable to cheating by health-care providers and organized-crime rings. Criminals need only fill out the government forms carefully and the “claims will be paid in full and on time, without a hiccup, by a computer, and with no human involvement at all,” according to Sparrow. A perfect example is the recent case of a high-school dropout in Miami who was able to single-handedly bilk Medicare out of $105 million from her laptop by submitting 140,000 separate claims for equipment and services.

Medicaid is also a huge abuse target. The GAO puts Medicaid fraud at $33 billion — 11 percent of state and federal spending on the program. . .”


http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTIyMTUxM2FkOTA4YmVkYzdlZGE3ODhkMzBiZDRkNDQ=


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“Here's a blow to President Obama and Democrats pressing health care reform.
One of the main arguments made by the President and others for investing in health reform now is that it will save the federal government money in the long run by containing costs.
Turns out that may not be the case, according to Doug Elmendorf, director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.
Answering questions from Democrat Kent Conrad of North Dakota at a hearing of the Senate Budget Committee today, Elmendorf said CBO does not see health care cost savings in either of the partisan Democratic bills currently in Congress.
Conrad:  Dr. Elmendorf, I am going to really put you on the spot because we are in the middle of this health care debate, but it is critically important that we get this right.  Everyone has said, virtually everyone, that bending the cost curve over time is critically important and one of the key goals of this entire effort.  From what you have seen from the products of the committees that have reported, do you see a successful effort being mounted to bend the long-term cost curve?
Elmendorf:  No, Mr. Chairman.  In the legislation that has been reported we do not see the sort of fundamental changes that would be necessary to reduce the trajectory of federal health spending by a significant amount.  And on the contrary, the legislation significantly expands the federal responsibility for health care costs.  “

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2009/07/cbo-sees-no-federal-cost-savings-in-dem-health-plans.html
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Balladeer
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Harry and Louise...Thelma and Louise...so what? Their endorsement makes it good?

If Harry and Louise know how to pay for it, could they tell Obama and the congress, please....because they don't.

[This message has been edited by Balladeer (07-16-2009 05:19 PM).]

Huan Yi
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Just how is it to be paid for?
Is China assumed to to be
America's sugar daddy, or is it
something for the next generation
to worry about?

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Denise
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Harry & Louise are actors reading a script. So I don't know how credible it is for someone to point out that their change of opinion symbolizes how different the debate over health care is now than previously, as if they are just regular folks who have had a genuine change of heart on the issue. The folks who have had a change of heart most likely are Families USA and PhRMA and whoever else may have helped fund the multimillion dollar ad campaign.
 
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