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Member Rara Avis
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50 posted 04-11-2009 06:36 PM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

If my post from last evening was to be redacted in it's entirety, please do me the courtesy of placing a note in the thread saying that that was the case ...

I notified you the first ten or twelve times I had to do it, Bob. How about doing me the courtesy of talking about the issues instead of the people who are talking about the issues? Then neither one of us will be wasting our time.
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51 posted 04-11-2009 11:12 PM       View Profile for Bob K   Email Bob K   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Bob K

     Here is an interesting thing.

      On 4/8/09 Serenity asked a question, for the sake of information, I suspect, that has not yet been answered.



can I have an AP reference on any/all of the above?

(Support the Associated Press)

     Nobody making accusations and about the President seems to have responded.  The gibes have continued as though the question had in fact been satisfactorily responded to.  Indeed, it may well have a satisfactory answer, based in clear documentation.  Other statements have been made without attribution.  

     Mike put one in Capitol letters, as though it may have been a quote, but without clarifying whether it was a quote or not.  If it was a quote, an attribution is customary because even scholars make mistakes in attribution, and it's important to get to the truth of these things.  Especially in a context where statements are made that are in quotation marks, and thus state that they are truthful representations of actual statements made in the contexts they are reported to have been made within.

     Similarly when assertions are made proporting to be truth, sources are generally required to support these assertions.  These sources are generally supposed to be reputable sources, and the purpose of sourcing the quotes is so that the reader may evaluate for him or herself the value of these sources.  Similarly, the value of the interpretations offered of events is frequently graded as to the reliability of the interpretation; while we do not often do that here, it has been known to save a lot of trouble and on occasions to save a significant amount of foolishness and sometimes a lot of lives.

     I could go on, but really, it would be misleading, Serenity's request was much simpler than that, and should have been happily and easily complied with as a matter our courtesy in the discussion.  That this was not done, is telling.
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