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It seems to come in cycles when
The ego bruised sets ink to pen
In woeful calls, and tantrums meek
The toys withheld, avail spurned cheek

The human heart may fill with tears
Yet somehow, self absorbed, appears
To have forgotten why we've come
The reasons that we write, each one

Might I observe lest judgment put
Sometimes a feast of words afoot
The pout put out in staunch adieu
Seems childish means to cater to

Each poet here, this garden grows
As every author surely knows
Not every taste or tea by cup
Will every offering fill up

Some times are less
Some times are more
The pace of post one cannot score
For every flavor, sift and salt
The seasonings of Passions malt

Don't say goodbye a price to pay
Each time the lyrics didn't play
Remember seasons flow as willed
And will in time be yours fulfilled
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Don't you think that most people who make a big drama out of saying goodbye are simply looking for friends to tell them: "don't go!"?

And doesn't this seem a quite decorous way to say: "I am hurt, offended, insulted, please tell me how valued I am"?

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I do indeed.
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I like the poema and I like the message.

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I never say never, so I won't say I'll never say "goodbye".

I do hope, however I go, I say "thank you."



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Quiet is nice, but sometimes the drama just can't be easily avoided. I think the stronger the bond, the more likely we are compelled to drama. And that ain't necessarily a bad thing.

As to motive, it's tempting to read between the lines, but I think we all intuitively know that assumptions and generalities usually come back to bite us where and when we least want to be bitten. I can only speak from experience, but with a few divorces in my past I can assure you that goodbye isn't always a cry for validation. I think we can still care for someone (hence the drama) at the same time we need to take our leave of them. Compatibility and harmony are gifts, not guarantees.

Sometimes, goodbye simply means goodbye.
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Good bye by design, is an ending...it shouldn't be a substitute, or an ultimatum... or used to evoke validation, which was my thought.

People do use it in disguise, which I find interesting in the context of writing.
Sometimes, as people, we take that passive-aggressive step around the doorway.

It does get confusing that way.

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Why is this in the Alley?  
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Some are more emotionally charged than others. That is a good thing, for they often produce works of art and beauty far more passionate than what the less emotionally charged create.
If indeed, the goodbye is just a game play for sympathy, then perhaps, it shouldn't be encouraged. Somehow, that seems to be an oversimplification of the circumstances that surround poet goodbyes, which can be for hundreds of reasons, some even the poet may not be fully conscious of or understand.
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Good point.
Can be a multitude of reasons, a multitude of styles of communicating different things.

Sometimes quietly, sometimes dramatic...not always the end.
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quote:
As to motive, it's tempting to read between the lines,

And more often than not essential, to avoid conflict and, uh, divorce.
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but I think we all intuitively know that assumptions and generalities usually come back to bite us where and when we least want to be bitten.

Placing that in the same sentence as "read between the lines" makes it sound as if you are saying that reading between the lines results in assumptions and generalities which result in being bitten back.  Wrong on many counts imo.
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I can only speak from experience,

Is the "only" defensive or modest?



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Compatibility and harmony are gifts, not guarantees.

In my experience they are rarely either.  They are more usually the result of mutual hard work.  
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