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Essorant
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0 posted 2008-12-04 01:13 AM



You probably heard about this coalition ado in Canada.   I don't understand why people cannot give something different some patience and respect.  Everyone in the media seems to have another addition to overreacting, painting an extreme, or portraying the leaders as one dimensional and without any substance.  In any case, I think three parties setting differences aside and cooperating to form a government is a lot more mature and hopeful for the country than a bunch of onlookers spitting and overreacting.  


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1 posted 2008-12-04 01:31 AM


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Well I wish I could agree with you, but this is the worst timing ever!  No one asked me?  On that premise alone, I have to deem this whole thing very undemocratic actually.     7 weeks after an election, and in the middle of an economic crisis, we decide to let what the west refers to now as "The Three Stooges," run the show?  This is the time we need to stand strong and keep our country together, not form a coalition with the Separatists.  Talk about bad timing!  Heck, I am not even a Conservative, and I think this is the worst thing they could do right now.

Sorry Ess, I really can't agree with you on this one.

I would imagine a small number of Americans know as much about our government as we do about theirs, so I put a link up for them to understand your post a bit more.      

This is the type of thing that sure shows the difference between the voice of the East and the West coast of Canada.

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2 posted 2008-12-04 07:47 AM


Well, what can I say?  I sent Sharon a note just the other day, asking her what she thought about all this mess.

You know, I attended a seminar with Bill Clinton last week and walked away feeling upbeat and positive. He was in my city talking about the economy.  It was a WONDERFUL seminar, and left the audience feeling as if there was at least "some" amount of hope that the world could turn itself around and address the massive global problems we are "all" facing.

Then what happens?  In the midst of all this global economic upheaval, our Canadian government which we JUST finished electing goes to hell.  They are wasting everyone's time and futures by having us re-focus on the opposing parties political agendas.  Heck, the leader of the Liberal opposing party is/was expected to step down in May because his OWN party has no confidence in him after the election?  It's insane.  Honestly?  I would laugh if it weren't so frightening a prospect!  I think we are officially living in a worldwide nightmare.  I give up.

Here's some good examples of how these "children" play in the Canadian House of Commons.  People may as well just watch and judge for themselves.

House of Commons: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=xInw95VmyzU


House of Commons: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=qTvv_M6LL1s
Prime Minister address last night:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=Igy7EFw9jiA&feature=channel


Leader of Liberal Opposition:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=j2TKsTgaoCo


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3 posted 2008-12-04 12:57 PM


Being the lady that Kit is she would never post this one, but I will.

Hockey Coalition


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4 posted 2008-12-05 12:27 PM


Those vids of the House of Commons were wild!

It's not just Harper's plan that threw the coalition on a rampage, is it? Seems to me that the opposition has built a seething plan of attack that had to have been taking place well before the election, so why didn't the gov allow the citizens a vote? Instead of plowing over the new guy like old dirt before he got his bearing?

Harper seems proactive toward continuing a democracy, whereas Dion seems more focused upon evidence that a coalition would be a better answer, which I'd want to know what basis of evidence there is when it hasn't been done, yet.

Hopefully things will simmer down for a little bit since the suspension of Parliament, but I feel for you all and I really do pray for the positive.


Essorant
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5 posted 2008-12-05 04:40 AM


It is not undemocratic, but it is the way the minority government works after being voted in.  If a governing party does not respect the other parties' places, they tend not to respect that party's place, and if it goes so far they may do something about it.  They have a right to stand up for their right and belief that something better should be done for Canada.  

[This message has been edited by Essorant (12-05-2008 05:24 AM).]

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