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Grinch
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Mike,

Iím still not sure about this interweb thing but I found this:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/18/cnn-acorn-fact-check/

Thanks for the advice Mike, seems I was right - no voter fraud.

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Ignorance is bliss.

You can put all the facts right in front of some people, and they will still have such a closed mind, they will argue against it.

One thing about the FACTS,  no matter how much you want to ignore them,  

THE ARE TILL THE FACTS.  
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TRACE2RYM,

I have to admit Iím pretty dumb, I find it hard to understand complex issues like the allegations that ACORN have committed voter fraud, Iím definitely not gifted with much intelligence but Iím not sure that makes me automatically ignorant or blissful. I want to understand, all I need I think is for someone to explain whatís going on in simple terms, maybe then Iíll understand where the voter fraud is.

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Interesting video, Grinch.
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Dear Mike,

          I'm sorry, but I didn't follow the meaning of this piece that I saw in one of your postings.  Perhaps you would care to clarify it for me?

quote:


Mike:

If I had the time to write entries equalling chapters in War and Peace like my friend Bob, I would but it's not necessary.




Sincerely yours,  Bob Kaven
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Absolutely no offense intended, Bob. You go into fairly lengthy replies, that's all. If one were to compare your comments to others, it would be comparing Goliath to David.

It's certainly not wrong of you to do so. You include many interesting things, research and links to support whatever subject matter you are discussing. I admire that you do so and envy you the time it takes.

My comment was a very small tongue-in-cheek smile that I WISH I had that much time between life, work and exhaustion to dedicate so much of it to the Alley....that's it
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Dear Mike,

          Thanks for the clarification.  I do appreciate it.

Sincerely, Bob Kaven
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It seems that the first arrest for fraudulant registration has been made.
http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2008/oct/20/arrest-in-vote-fraud-case/
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A 25 year old man called the leader of the Republican party voter registration???

Secretary of State Debra Bowen said Jacoby violated state laws by registering to vote at the address of a childhood home in Los Angeles although he no longer lived there.

The four felony charges were filed Oct. 3 by the Public Integrity Unit of the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, based on investigations by the Secretary of State's Office.

Bowen is a Democrat, and the timing of the arrests, one day before the deadline for registering to vote in California, was viewed as proof of a political motive, state GOP spokesman Hector Barajas said.


He registered to vote from an address he no longer lived at and was charged with FOUR felonies? By the Democratic State attorney?? Right at the time ACORN is under heavy fire??

Did you read that article holding your nose, grinch? I hope so. The only surprising thing is that they didn't give him the death penalty.
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Are you saying that he didnít break the law Mike, or that the law shouldnít apply to Republicans?

I think he deserves everything he gets for not having the brains to hand his registration into an ACORN office instead of an election official. If heíd have done that, using your logic, ACORN would have been facing the charges instead of him.

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Forgive me for interrupting--I obviously just read the topic line, and proceeded from there...

George W. Bush:
"United States makes no distinction between those who commit acts of terror and those who support and harbor terrorists, because they are equally guilty of murder." -- October 6, 2005


http://www.638waystokillcastro.com/

Interesting little flick, there. Be sure to check out the proud pictures in the background, of not just G.B., Jr. embracing a known terrorist, but also a sweet companion shot of G.B., Sr. embracing the "good" work of a known terrorist...

Hmmm.

So there is good terrorism, and bad terrorism, and "friendships" are a matter of convenience...

hmmm.

No wonder the stoner chick longs to get stoned.

and oh, I'm looking into ACORN too. But I didn't think the conversation should be limited to that.

I imagine there's a bit of dirt everywhere by now...

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Dear Mike,

          I read The Ventura County Star article.  They said that Acorn had flagged a number of registrations for the state folks to check out because Acorn thought they might be phony.  That doesn't sound like Acorn was trying to sneak anything by anybody.

     The state apparently found that 17% of those that Acorn flagged were phony, which the state thought was high.  Not having experience with this, I trust the state is correct, and that 17% is a lot of phony registrations to find.  

     My conclusion is that Acorn should hire more qualified people and train them better, but Acorn may be more of a capitalistic organization than that and may believe that it would make more money by sorting out phony signatures after they've been signed up, simply as a cost saving measure.  I have no idea; I don't know the business end of this sort of thing.

     Typically, the two parties approach this situation differently.  The Democrats try to register new voters and get  poor voters out to support their candidates, and the Republicans try to disqualify blocks of voters through law suits and other means.  The blocks of voters they try to disqualify are interesting to research.  This is probably not the place to get into those demographics.

     Sincerely, Bob Kaven
 
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