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50 posted 10-08-2008 07:43 PM       View Profile for JenniferMaxwell   Email JenniferMaxwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for JenniferMaxwell

I am highly amused, Jim, your humor is delicious and your syntax sheer perfection, inverted or otherwise. Since I've already told you that in private email, stop fishing for compliments. Makes you look needy.

I'm also interested in the difference between satire, sarcasm, polemics, and lunacy. Well, the lunacy part I'm familiar with so you could skip that if you're short on time.

I'd like to learn how to better express my dry wit and droll humor. I'm often accused of being sarcastic by those who don't know me. Others who know me well recognize it's just my tongue in cheek style.

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Jimbeaux...



Loving the humor in a thread named "any topic goes thread".

I mean, who can really get serious in a thread so obscure?

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VIRUS ALERT!!!   VIRUS ALERT!!!



If you receive an e-mail with the subject of "Nude Pictures of Sarah Palen", DO NOT OPEN IT!
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It may contain a virus!!!



VIRUS ALERT!!!     VIRUS ALERT!!!



If you receive an e-mail with the subject of "Nude Pictures of Hillary Clinton, DO NOT OPEN IT!!!
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It may contain nude picture of Hillary Clinton!
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That's "Palin", btw Mike.

Anyway, what I really dropped by to say was:

YAY for Connecticut!
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/10/connecticut_sup.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed3
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     Where are those pictures, Balladeer.  Maybe we can photoshop them together with some pictures of Senator McCain for some hot muscrat video action fun.

     Shudder, shudder.  

     I do believe I've creeped myself out in the backblast of my own bad joke.  Gak!  Gag!

     Sorry, Balladeer,  Must get to can of spinach. . . .
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Oh, terribly sorry!  I thought this was the oil question thread where the Hillary/McCain joke might actually go over.
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Mooonbeam --  Aw, the Connecticut repeal wasn't that big a deal.  The whole country already has "happy marriage" rights, the kind which enabled Arianna Huffington to marry the millionaire Michael Huffington, who admitted to parting his hair in both directions.

Just a cheap shot to keep the balls roiling.

Best, Jimbeaux
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No problem, Bob. You have a record of getting your threads mixed up

I was responding to Jimbeaux's call for levity. The "joke" won't go over on any thread to Democrats. That's ok. I didn't post it for them.

(psssstt...it goes over well with Republicans. Trust me on this one....') )
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A Tale for Jenn: OR

How to use Humor, Satire, Sarcasm Lunacy, and Story-telling at the same time.  The Story is in qoutes, not the original boldface,  didn't show up in the box.


THE GREAT NEMATODE CAPER  

(1.)  Start with a silly sounding title.  Other examples include “Moby Dick.”

"Burrell Weeks was tired of living in the poor folks home."

(2) Pick an odd name (“Ahab” comes to mind) and set the stage in the first line.

"For one thing, everybody else in the poor folks home was old and white to boot."

(3) Distinguish the character immediately from the rest of the characters who are likely to crop up in the story (“Pequod” comes to mind.)  

(4) Write in the vernacular if your character is going to speak in the vernacular, and keep your sentences short.  Use stupid notes like these to interject an element of satire.  

(5) Avoid the temptation to drift into sarcasm too early in the tale. Don’t say something like:

"Not only were they old and white, but they were Jewish on top of it, and ate a lot of lox, which was, as far as Burrell could tell, the waste of a perfectly good piece of fish."

(5a)  Your reader isn’t nearly ready for a sarcastic whomp, and will probably think you are a Jew-baiting racist (satire), unless your reader is Jewish, in which he/she will recognize this as a joke (sarcasm, except it doesn’t have anything to do with the story, and the sentence contains too many subordinate clauses, which tends to interfere with humor unless you happen to be a genius like John Barth or Woody Allen (humor.)  So be a genius.  (humor)

"And the view wasn’t too hot, either."

6:  Two things accomplished here:  You’ve expanded the set-up, giving another reason why Burrell is unhappy, and firmly establishing that the story is going to be told from Burrell’s point of view for those who couldn’t get it from the first line (sarcasm).

“Solly” Burrell asked, “What do you see when you look across the street?”

7.  You can’t start throwing in dialog too soon.  (“Call me Ishmael” comes to mind. (satire).

"Burrell and Solly were sitting on the front steps of poor folks home, killing themselves with cigarettes, which not only kept away the bat-sized Miami mosquitoes, but discouraged the blue haired old ladies from sitting out there too."

8.  Ah, here you get to break the rule about subordinate clauses while introducing a “buddy.”  Every good comic story has a buddy.  Where would Dobie Gillis (note funny name) be without Maynard G. Krebs?  (note funny name).   Technically speaking, the “buddy” is often known as the “Foil”)  (more story telling mechanics).  Not only that, but by saying Miami, you’ve used a cultural reference to explain why

“Hmm,”  Solly said. “Looks like the ugly-ass-end of a K-Mart where they pile up the junk”
“Well, yeah,” Burrell agreed, but what do you see before that?”
“Big old empty lot.”
“Right,” Burrell, said  “And what do people do with big old empty lots”
“Put up cardboard shacks and sleep in them?”

9.  This is an important exchange.  First, it establishes that Burrell has at least one friend, whose name Solly indicates he’s a Jewish guy,  and it sets up the black guy/white guy equality thing (sarcasm) which works in comedy because, after all these years, we still don’t really expect it (more sarcasm). And Second, it lets the reader know that the buddy is going to get some of the good lines too (story telling).

“No, man, they grow plants on’em and then they sell’em."

10:  Here, you’re teasing out the premise…

“Why’d you want to do that?”
           “So I can make some money and get out of this damned poorhouse!"

11:  There’s the motivation (storytelling) and you’re still on page one.  Good job!

“I thought you had money?”
“I do have money!  I got enough money to BUY this roach ranch. But I can’t get ahold of it!" …

12:  Ah, THE CONFLICT!

…  “But when I stroked out, what, eight years ago, my damned daughter-in-law, Margarethe, she got Conservatized and she’s been Conservatizing my cash ever since!  Put me in the poor house!  And I ain’t stroked no more!  I’m just broke!”

13:  Ah, the antagonist!  Every story has to have one!

“So how do you buy plants?”
“We don’t.  We steal’em!  And we blame in on Margarethe!

14.  And now you have THE CAPER, the basis of the funny story.

There’s an old Hollywood saw about how a story works:  First, you chase a monkey up a tree.  Then you shake the tree.  Then you figure out how to get the monkey back down.

Hope you seriously didn’t think I was going to tell you the whole story, but here’s one way to work out act two (story telling)  Burrell “invents the DADE COUNTY AGRICULTURAL COMMISSION NEMATODE CONTROL PROJECT, prints up some t-shirts, badges and official looking documents, “signed “ by  the phony Commissioner, Margarethe herself, and proceeds to appropriate nursery stock from every wholesale nursery, retail outlet, and landscaped parking lot he and Solly can find, for nematode research, of course.  

Now, you have to shake the tree pretty hard, that’s called the “plot,” and then you have to get Burrell and Solly out of the tree, and you have to imagine all the comic complications that might ensue.  

I mean that.  You HAVE to imaging the comic complications.  That’s what makes it a funny story.  And, once you get rolling, you can be as satiric, sarcastic, or just plain looney as you want.

Well, that pretty much killed my day, but none of my favorite college football teams are on TV until later.

Best, Jimbeaux  

PS:  I alsmost forgot:  The "Lunacy" part is using "Moby Dick" as an example of comic writing.

[This message has been edited by oceanvu2 (10-12-2008 09:53 AM).]

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Thanks, Jim, sorry to be so late responding, been a little under the weather. What came to mind as I started reading was Vonnegut. Hope you take that as the compliment it was meant to be. Yep, some lovely pointers, Jim, and much appreciated. Could you also send me a cup or two of your brilliance and wit to give me a fighting chance?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itf6XLPo874&feature=related
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http://believe.amnestyusa.org/atf/cf/{7B7C46E5-9835-46E3-9557-BBD225E306DB}/AI_AIBI_4IMAGES.GIF
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Ar least that fun-loving group the Black Panthers are there at the polling places in Philadelphia, resplendent in leather jackets and billy clubs, encouraging people to vote their hearts. I suppose THAT'S what the new America is all about.

There have been 137 calls so far from Philadelphia complaining of coercion/intimidations. Aren't those panthers cute???
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZANq7nnc2w&feature=related
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One was a certified poll watcher, the other, the one with the night stick wasn't and was removed. Not to worry, everything's ok now.
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When I saw those Black Panthers it sent a shock through me. I remember how they decimated this city back in 1970 when they murdered Sgt. Von Colin, who worked under my father, Capt. Corbley. My dad was on his way to work and was just a few minutes from the station when the call came over his radio that there was trouble there.

I guess these thugs are some people's idea of democracy.

Maybe in Kenya.

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Well, I really don't think one misguided person with a night stick is a real threat to democracy here or anywhere else. No one was threatened and no one was prevented from voting. And, just so you know, the two weren't "Black Panthers".


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Intimidation of Republicans and White voters is no more acceptable than the reverse, Jen. And yes, it is a threat to democracy.

And yes, they are Black Panthers. Only now they are called the New Black Panthers. Same ideology.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80036
http://townhall.com/blog/g/cf47766b-5a6d-44ab-95e7-ce60631bcadc
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Really, it's ok now, honest. The misguided person has been removed and the one person left is an official poll watcher.
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No, it's not okay that it happened, Jen. It will never be okay that it happened.

And it's not okay that Republican poll watchers were thrown out of several voting districts.
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A subdued McCain says goodbye to press on plane - Cindy McCain had tears in her eyes

A subdued McCain came to the back of the plane to talk to reporters on the flight from New Mexico back to Arizona.

Cindy McCain, who stood beside her husband, had tears in her eyes.

"Well, my friends, this is our last flight on this airplane together so I just wanted to stop back," McCain said. "And yesterday I know was really a fun day starting out at the crack of dawn and ending up at 2 am. We went 3700 miles yesterday, had a great ride, and looking forward to the election results tonight and I'm feeling good, feeling confident about the way things have tured out. We've had a great ride, a great experience, it's full of memories that we will always treasure, including the last one up there in Colorado, where people were so warm-- and the enthusiasm as you've seen in rallies has been really quite remarkable and quite heartwarming. So, we've spent a lot of time together, so, been together for almost two years--others, those are the ones who rode around in the van with us on the $39.99 flight to Manchester. So anyway, we've had a great time and I wish all every success. Look forward to being with you in the future. Thanks very much."
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Tell the 138 people that called in complaining of coercion it's ok. of course, they are probably just cry babies, no doubt. And yes, they were billy clubs and carrying them is against the law...not to mention they are not standard issue to poll watchers.

The lengths some people will go to for justification of actions is always appalling.

Misguided person. I love it
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Was the person who carried the night stick arrested and charged? If so, what were the charges?

Of course his actions, the actions of one person, were wrong. The police handled the situation properly, removed him and the incident is over.
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I think McCain's farewell to the reporters on his plane was very touching. I wish he'd gotten the nomination in 2000 instead of Bush. I think he was quite a different man then, one I might have actually voted for.

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Thank you Jenn.

(I agree with you about McCain in 2000.)

But I guess I can say whatever I like, since nobody ever listens to me.

 
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