I have a lot of respect for you as both a poet and moderator and I totally accept what you say above. In fact from personal experience I know how hard you mods work to maintain order, and to deal with problems as they arise ... can you hear the "but" coming? lol
Having said that sometimes it does seem to me you get it wrong (not you, but "you" collectively). I do strongly feel that when the two "poems" below (with names changed to preserve the innocent), were published on this site they should have been instantly removed.
Not only were they not removed, but in the case of one of them it was hotly followed by no less than three senior moderators all posting replies in support of the poster's right to publish a racist attack, and much worse yet than that. Presumably the issue was discussed in the mods forum, and the decision was made to leave the posts - that's sad enough, but for one mod (SEA) to actually say in public: "I think it's fine ..." was almost unbelievably naive.
Naive because such a reaction from the keepers of PiP law and order has inevitably lowered the bar drastically on what is and isn't permissible in the Alley. With such a background I find it breathtakingly hypocritical for anyone to scream foul at Jenn's relatively mild (by comparison) attack on Palin.
And yes, Karilea, it does diminish the Mods a bit in my view, most of whom do, as I say, a wonderful job .
I hope you don't mind me raising this, I only do so because of your post to Jennifer.
Here are the poems and the comments:
With apologies to Jaime Fradera:
Boy Hooker Palin can not win,
unless it is the same way Hitler won.
The people of this country and this continent
will never be governed by an insufferable tyrant
and will not endure living in a Marxist hell,
and then will bury this wanna-be misleader,
this plastic, patchwork persona,
this arrogant, trumpt-up, inflated buffoon
in contempt, ridicule and scorn.
Palin will not deliver us from evil,
but into it.
A sudden, meteoric rise
always precedes an equally meteoric fall.
Remove me from this forum if you will,
but history will vindicate these words.
Palin is a populist demigog.
So when Palin says:
White ist der master race,
ve say heil,
right in Palin's face.
Mz McCain Cindy ain't much better.
So when Frau Cindy says:
I'm mistress of zis place,
Ve sai heil,
right up frau McCain's face.
While I don't agree with Jaime, he does have the right to express his opinion here in the Alley
the fact is, it's his opinion. He didn't ask you to agree with it. I think it's fine ...
Well, he is entitled to his opinion and no one is forced to respond and that's the bottom line. Can it be found distasteful? Sure, but I can go the archives and find things said about Bush that equal it with no complaints.
(Umm, I'm editing this just to make it crystal clear that in no way do I condone or subscribe to the sentiments expressed in those poems either in relation to Mrs Palin or Mr Obama or Mr or Mrs McCain. Both poems in my view are unadulterated vitriolic bad written ignorant rubbish of the most insidious kind. Just wanted to clarify that )
[This message has been edited by moonbeam (09-05-2008 03:29 PM).]