Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
I need to be reminded about the details of the travel office business with Hilary. Part of the problem in considering her faults is that the Republican Party spent so much time and effort and money trying to find things they could use to smear her with so little success in terms of actual proof, that I tend to dismiss almost every accusation against her as another greasy smear tactic.
An easy out used there, Bob. As far as Travelgate and Filegate is concerned, it wasn't so much the Republican party trying to dig dirt on her, it was the news media itself doing the initiating. No charges filed against the Clintons? They didn't call him Slick Willie for nothing, sir. I would suppose by that manner of thinking, since so many accusations have been thrown at Bush with no formal charges sticking, then you should also say that you will be willing to dismiss every charge against him as another greasy smear tactic by the Democrats.
Travelgate was a travesty and the first of things that were to show Hillary's character as a White House dweller.
It began in May 1993, when seven longtime employees of the White House Travel Office were fired, after a brief investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The White House said the action was due to financial improprieties in the office operation. Critics said the actions were done to allow friends of the Clintons to take over the travel business and that the involvement of the FBI was unwarranted. Heavy media attention forced the White House to reinstate most of the employees in other jobs and remove the Clinton associates from the travel role. WIKIPEDIA
Why did the Clintons want the travel office employess out?
They alleged that friends of President Bill Clinton, including his third cousin Catherine Cornelius, had sought the firings in order to get the business for themselves. Dale and his staff had been replaced with Little Rock, Arkansas-based World Wide Travel, a company with a substantial reputation in the industry but with several ties to the Clintons. In addition, Hollywood producer and Inauguration chairman Harry Thomason, a friend of both Clintons, and his business partner, Darnell Martens, were looking to get their air charter company, TRM, the White House business in place of Airline of the Americas. The Clinton campaign had been TRM's sole client during 1992, collecting commissions from booking charter flights for the campaign. Martens wanted the White House to award TRM a $500,000 contract for an aircraft audit, while also seeking Travel Office charter business as an intermediary which did not own any planes. WIKIPEDIA
The Clintons wanted their pals in and the travel office out and they were willing to trash the reputations of the travel office workers to do it. They charged Billy Dale with felony embezzlement and criminal conversion and had their lawyers spend 12 days in court trying to make the charges stick. He was acquitted in less than two hours. Many travel office fired employees were reinstated and subsequently sued the governement for it's treatment of them. Greasy tactics, Bob? Yep, you called it right....
The Congressional investigation continued; on March 21, 1996, Hillary Clinton submitted a deposition under oath to the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, again acknowledging concern about irregularities in the travel office but denying a direct role in the firings and expressing a lack of recollection to a number of questions.
Yes, Hillary's memory is a thing to behold. During one period of testimony, she said "I don't recall 17 times in a 15 minute period. Can a woman with such a faulty memory be a good president?
Then, of course, you can go to Filegate, in which Hillary is reported to have used up to 900 fBI files to investigate republicans. No, it could not be proven, and when the files showed up in her possession after months of searching, she claimed she had no idea how they got there. Obviously another sleazy Republican tactic. The list goes on, Bob. Actually I wanted her to get the nomination because I wanted a chance for all of these things to get out, the things that anyone else would have been tarred and feathered over and in which the Clintons always wound up getting a pass. Teflon, indeed. You can just type in Hillary scandals in your search engine and review the sleaziness anytime you wish.
As far as McCain's voting against the extension of the GI bill benefits, first let me say I can't imagine anyone more pro-GI than McCain. Second this bill is a travesty and should be a humiliation to the Democratic Party. They took a bill that concerning military funding and then purposely went out and added every piece of pork to it which would attract a senator into signing it.....which they did.
"Our troops deserve better than having essential war time resources held hostage to billions in unrelated spending," said White House spokesman Tony Fratto. "Congress should pass a clean war funding bill when they return from Memorial Day recess."
They added police dept grants, repairing roads, health research projects, levee and coastal restoration, 200 million for the space shuttle program and anything else they could get to sway votes for it. It's very easy, and incorrect, to say "McCain voted against GI benefits." What he did was oppose everything else they junked up the bill with.
The diplomacy factor and experience factor? Good question there. Obama has no experience whatsoever. He can say nothing more eloquently than anyone else but saying nothing does not get the job done. His desire to "talk" to our enemies would beg the question "Talk about what?" If he thinks his factless glibness would do any good, he's sadly mistaken. As the leader of QATAR said, "This is not Mr. Rogers neighborhood over here. Arabs respect straight talk and force." What would he have to say to Iran, Hamas or even Cuba, for that matter? "Don't you fellas know that killing people is wrong?" That wouldn't get too far. They understand only one kind of language. I don't see where Carter recently did any good. We have always tried to use diplomacy. The UN tries to use diplomacy while begging African dictators to stop the genocide and slaughter of millions and to please let aid in to help victims. What exactly has diplomacy done for us? France tried to be diplomatic with Hitler. That worked out well. The turning points of our history deal with the times we disregarded diplomacy and acted, like Kennedy with the Cuban missile crisis, Truman ending WW2 and Reagan saying, Mr. Gorbachev, tear down that wall!" I can understand people not liking his "cowboy diplomacy" but I, along with many, find it refreshing. He calls down the "evil-doers" and the "axis of evil". He doesn't mince words. Ok, some will claim that he doesn't mince words because he doesn't KNOW many words and that's ok, too. I shudder to think of Gore having been president after 9/11. Say what you will about Bush methods, but we haven't been attacked here for the 7 years following and don't think it's because they haven't tried or lost desire to. I still feel that, despite everything you, Democrats in general, and even I, on occassion, feel that Bush handled poorly, history will judge him very favorably, much more so than Clinton.
McCain will have a lot to answer for. I disagree with many things he stands for. Patriotism is not one of them. Neither is experience. Even without my vote, I cannot see him losing to an inexperienced, no-substance freshman senator or a lying, conniving, inexperienced (word I cannot use here). Should be interesting....
By the way, if you want a closer look at the real Hillary, you can find her here.. http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hildabeast.asp
WARNING: No one who does not want to be subjected to foul language should go to that link!