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Huan Yi
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0 posted 02-20-2008 10:15 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

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One of my favorite comments
was by Peter O'Toole:

"As one grows older
relationships become more difficult.
The thought of going through that
all over again is unsupportable
so I donít bother."

Is that a manís perspective
or do women accept as well
an end of opportunity?

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[This message has been edited by Ron (02-21-2008 08:01 AM).]

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1 posted 02-20-2008 10:28 PM       View Profile for TomMark   Email TomMark   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for TomMark

Obviously Peter OíToole has not a good life experience. Any one can end or start a relationship but it always takes two people to build one.
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2 posted 02-22-2008 05:26 PM       View Profile for latearrival   Email latearrival   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for latearrival

  John, I do not see many replies so here is my thought. A few years ago I met a man who was fishing off the pier. Another woman and I were talking to him about the fishing. He began to relate how happy he was to have met and married a woman just recently. He was in his late sixties I would say. That was so nice until he mentioned that now he can share the rent with her and she is a good cook, bla bla bla. So I couldn't resist. I said, "and I bet she has already mowed the lawn and has dinner on the table and a nice cold drink ready for you when you come home from your day's fishing all hot and tired." He was kind enough to just smile and go on fishing. I wonder what she got from that marriage. I am not a spoil sport but I sometimes wonder. When a woman my age meets an older man who is active, he is usually out with a much younger woman, or looking for one. Men who are still active do not seem to realize that woman of their age are also still alive and kicking too. So we do not see many available "dates" But we manage to find fun and do thngs that interest us. best to you, "late"
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One of my friend, who just visited me the other day, who was cheated by her man and they divorced for 20 some years. Then in reunion, the boy who loved her long back in college who was dumped by his wife for 20 some years, started wow his old love. They married and the grown  children of the father have told my friend that they had never seen their father in such a happy and relaxed mood. They are extremely kind and able people. If one loves life, then everything in life is a challenge and adventure. If one live a life of lukewarm water then the life will be always floppy. single or as couple.  
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I work with a man who did just that,but he remarried his first wife and they have been very happy the second time. The problem is look how long it took to find true "love"
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"Women knock at your door in vain, you wonít open.
You remain alone, the light turned off,
and your enormous eyes shine in the dark."


Carlos Drummond de Andrade


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I've heard of that quote, and I have always thought that if he had indeed said it, then  Peter simply had petered out, and wasn't up for any more challenges, which life always offers up, no matter what age, or stage.

So what's the real request for the question in the first place?

Oh yes. Do women think the same?

No. At least, none of the real women I know...

Not that we are looking for a conquest. But I always think that most women believe in continuance, and hope. I believe, also, that most men see a true finality in their lives. I think ultimately that because men never bear children,  that is why, once again, where we differ, overall.

Because if you were to bear a child from its beginning, you would look differently on all the circumstances that circle your life. I'm not saying that I am right, I'm just saying that it is a strong forbear on what men take upon themselves overall in time.


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Many times the priorities change, like in the story of the 70 year old woman who told her friends she had found the perfect man.

Is he handsome? they asked. No - uglier than dirt.

Is he rich? No - poor as a churchmouse.

Does he treat you well? No - screams at me day and night.

Then what makes him the perfect man, they asked???

She replied, "He can drive at night!"
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Mike, you might find that in an assistance living facility,  but the women I know still live vital lives. You would be surprised! The last older woman who worked  with me was eighty when because of a fall ended up in a veterans home (she had been in the service) and died there at 82.  Don't sell the old ladies short.. "Late"  p.s. A lady friend in the neighborhood was still caring for pre- kindergarten kids at school and they all loved her. She was in her eighties when they took her car away and she still walked everywhere she had to go in suit and high heels..You only need to look around with eyes open to find these terrific women. At 87 she was caring for an "elderly" lady.
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"Women knock at your door in vain, you wonít open.
You remain alone, the light turned off,
and your enormous eyes shine in the dark."

If one has lost the pleasure of serving woman, one can't loss the pleasure of a sound sleep as well. Poor thing!!!!

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I would put it this way:

As one grows older he becomes wiser, and may realize there are greater things to pursue in life than romantic relationships

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Actually, Essorant, that is a subject for debate on both points.

LateArrival, don't worry! I will never sell the elderly ladies short.

Four years ago my mother was in a nursing home. She had had a stroke, and the right half of her body was paralyzed. She couldn't speak, either.I went to visit her and wheeled her to the dining room for her evening meal. Halfway through she got very agitated and made signs to indicate she wanted to leave. I couldn't understand why. When I didn't react quickly she got MORE agitated so I wheeled her out of there. I went to turn left, the direction of her room, and she threw a fit again (in her limited way) and motioned for me to turn right.

To make a long story short she had fallen for a fellow there in the nursing home! He was leaving the dining room and she threw the fit because she wanted to follow him! The nurses later told me they would wheel down the halls together, holding hands. I found it to be so amazing that, with her condition and all of her problems, she still had romantic feelings flowing inside her for a man. She acted like a little girl experiencing puppy love. It still makes me smile to think about it.
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what a great woman.  She must have good sleep than have stared at the celling and writing empty poems.   
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"Actually, Essorant, that is a subject for debate on both points."

I know.  I wasn't born yesterday  

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Mike thanks for that story.I can match you as I saw a lot of pairing up in nursing homes. Everyone needs someone to care about in what ever manner they can show. When we stop caring about people or even pets if that is all we have, then it is time to go for we will no longer feel needed or wanted. jmo "late"
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I agree, late. I wrote this poem to illustrate that point a while back, if you're interested.
http://piptalk.com/main/forumdisplay.cgi?action=displayarchive&number=42&topic=000068

Have a great day!
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Did I see a reference to Mike looking for a woman in assisted living?

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane,
I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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17 posted 02-25-2008 05:03 PM       View Profile for latearrival   Email latearrival   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for latearrival

Mike I thought I had read all of your poems. I had better rush back to the archives.
I love this and yes the men and women all come alive when they see a cat or dog come to visit. You did a good job and I apprecate you.  "late"
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18 posted 02-25-2008 05:36 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

That's right, Larry. They can't run as fast!
 
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