Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
You have changed the subject at least twice, once to "Old Folks at Home," and once to try to put the polar opposite of my statement about Mark Twain into my mouth.
Sorry you feel that way,Bob. The name of the state song, the Suwanee river one, is Old Folks at Home, which is the topic of the thread, hardly a change of topic. I don't see where comparing to Mark Twain is off-course, either. You refer to the word "darkie" as straightforward racist stuff and a terrible insult, yet you take the N word abundantly used in another piece of writing and give it a free pass. There is nothing consistent there, sir. How you can condemn one, which was used one time, and support another which was used freely with a word that is widely still used and condemned today,makes little sense to me. I see no consistency in your protest. Also the only valid comparison to me and a squid is that we both use ink.
If you didn't know about the word before, though, you know about it now. You know that there's a decent proportion of decent folks that are going to feel wounded and hurt every time you use it.
Bob, I would never even consider using it under any circumstances, not because I consider it to be such a racial insult but because it sounds like such a silly word. If I were in an argument or something and in the heat of the moment and wanted to use a racial slur - which is hard to imagine me doing since i can be much more creative - would i scream out "Oh, you darkie!!!!"?. I find it unlikely even though it would probably stop the fight due to the other person doubling over in fits of laughter.
btw....bless you, my son, but I am 62 and more than willing to share my experiences with younger people like you
how can the State of Florida (and we haven't even gotten into "My Old Kentucky Home) cling to a sentimental racially loaded tune just because it is traditional?
Jim, racially loaded? The word darkie, an archaic word at best used in one line in an inoffensive manner and you call it racially loaded?? Thank God neither one of us exaggerate!
When I referred to the song being sung to blacks, I was referring to the lyrics. It reads, Oh, darkies! How my heart grows weary!...which means, if performed, the singer would be singing to field hands or plantation workers. I was not referring to the audience.
If you're really all that okay with the word, Mike, start using it in daily discourse. The next time you're on the links with a black man, call him darky a few times. In a non-hateful way, of course. Then, please, let us know how that works out for you?
That's my point, Ron. I would have never used it anyway...wasn't even aware of it. I could do it in South America, where negro, fatty, skinny and other descriptive words are used as terms of affection or respect....but not here.
I'll do one better, Ron. On the golf course I'll call one of my black partners N... Jim or Bill or whatever, and then take Bob's advice and explain to him that N-word simply underlines what dirt-wads most of the rest of the players actually are and is acceptable. Think that one will fly??
Peace to all.....