Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
Thank you, reb, for the information,,,
you could even click the link I provided above
I did and did not find anything to support the fact that blacks hate the song at all, with the possible exception of Willie Logan. One line ws very interesting, however,.....Foster himself supported the North in the American Civil War and sympathized with black Americans.
the current effort is backed by your Gov. Charlie Christ, and sponsored by Sen. Tony Hill -- so that's at least three people --
Actually, Governor Christ is white and, to my chagrin, I don't even know the ethnicity of Tony Hill. Three people, yes, but not three blacks and two of them were responding to Logan's demands not initiating them. That still makes only one person doing the complaining. Nothing there about blacks hating the song.
and it will be decided next year by the entire state -- that's a lot more than one person.
Well, not really. Read your second link more closely.... It's true that the public was invited to select a new song from a select group, but they did so because they were told to do so, because Florida was going to change its state song. There is nothing there to indicate that the song change was initiated by the public or blacks outraged at the original song....only that here was to be a change and they would vote on a new one. That hardly supports your statement that blacks hate the song. Here is what has happened so far...
And now the people are speaking their minds, after listening to the three songs.And it ain't pretty.What's a poor State Senator to do? As we see it, Mr. Hill has a few options.
One, he can say nothing and do nothing. One song will be selected through the website and the winner will be announced at the annual FMEA convention in Tampa on January 11th. Then he and Rep. Homan can present the winning song to the Florida state legislature where it will be quickly and quietly turned down, forever disappearing as a footnote in history.
Another option is to reject publicly the educator's choice and go with another. Sir Charles Atkin's ''Florida's Song'' would seem an obvious choice. The tune, written by a blind FSU professor who has his own blues band, was actually played at Governor's Crist's inauguration.
There are others. Some of the state's folk musicians who make up the group Friends of Florida Folk actually have a few they could offer. ''I'm Florida, Need I Say More?'' by Bobby Hicks is an obvious choice on first listening. ''The Rose and the Gold (of a Florida morning)'' by Mem Semmes is a personal favorite.
Maybe something by Florida legends Will McLean? Gamble Rogers? Don Grooms? At this point Senator Hill may even be combing through his collection of Jimmy Buffett records, looking for something appropriate. Changes in Latitudes? Margaritaville? Cheeseburger in Paradise? What about the old ''Orange Blossom Special,'' a song about a Florida train? Or John Anderson's ''Seminole Wind?'' (The UF Gators may have a problem with that one).
A third option would be to copy Massachusetts and have more than just one song. Our good friends up north actually have an official state song, a state folk song, a state ceremonial march song, a state glee club song, a state polka, a state patriotic song and a state ode.
Or maybe we could take a cue from New Jersey. They have no state song at all!
So far the public, through web sites and community boards, telephone calls and e-mails, have responded to the three songs FMEA picked.
The problem was the judges at FMEA picked three songs written by, well, FMEA members. Teachers and educators all. And they sound like it. What's the old saying? Those who don't know, teach? The three songs have been described as ''mediocre at best'' and ''absolutely free of any distinguishable melody.''
''Try picturing a group of elementary kids singing any of these songs,'' a musician wrote on one of the folk music lists. ''Impossible.''
Considering the final three songs selected by the FMEA most likely aren't going to make the cut with the citizens and legislators, we suggest the Senator's best option is to keep the old song, with a few revisions.
Take out the line about ''Oh Darkeys'' and replace it with...brothers? Darlings? People?
Then, at least, Senator Hill can say he ''changed'' the racial context of the song and everybody else gets to keep the song they grew up with.
Frankly, it's quite the dilemma for the good Senator from Jacksonville.
There is nothing there to support your statement that blacks find the entire song offensive. We still have the fact that ONE man made a complaint and created this minitiature fiasco over something no one had thought to complain about before.
Your final link is equally as interesting..
The songs of northern composer Stephen Foster figured prominently in blackface minstrel shows of the period. Though written in dialect and certainly politically incorrect by today's standards, his later songs were free of the ridicule and blatantly racist caricatures that typified other songs of the genre. Foster's works treated slaves and the South in general with an often cloying sentimentality that appealed to audiences of the day.
Guess they knew what they were talking about....politically incorrect....there's the burr.
the NAACP has been trying to put an end to such stereotypes since the 1950's.
In that case would you explain to me why the NAACP has never issued a complaint about "Old Folks at Home" being Florida's state song? Surely if it is a song that all blacks hate and find offensive, it would be worthy of targeting, right?
It still all boils down to the same fact I have said previously....one man, with public access, creating a stir and demanding action over an issue in the name of political correctness over a topic no one had issued a complaint over before and - if you lived here you would see - is basically a non-issue, to whites and blacks alike.
I appreciate your research and links, reb, and the effort you put into your replies. I have found nothing, though, which supports your statement thatBlacks find the ENTIRE song, as written, blatantly offensive Substitute Willie Logan in there and I'll agree.