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Brad
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25 posted 08-11-2007 08:53 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Not every word, of course.

quote:
I'm saying he's a twist of lime in the vanilla Corona'd writing world.


I like this.

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Personally, I'm guilty of being a bibliobibuli at times, but I'm not able to own up to that word while drunk on anything else. Blibliobliboolo bliblioblublub. Correction: Delivery is tough while sober, as well.


Isn't that the key?

That we see as much of ourselves in the victims as we do the victimizer.
Huan Yi
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26 posted 08-11-2007 09:58 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

.

"Why do you search for a messiah in the words of a journalist?"


I don't but he was something like that
for those who considered themselves
the elite in the 1920's and for some
time beyond and therefore influenced
the attitudes of an era.

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27 posted 08-13-2007 12:30 AM       View Profile for TomMark   Email TomMark   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for TomMark

Brad,

I know what you mean.

Tomtoo
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28 posted 08-13-2007 07:17 AM       View Profile for rwood   Email rwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for rwood

"Isn't that the key?

That we see as much of ourselves in the victims as we do the victimizer."


Yep, or the "characters" as much as the "author", etc.

being believable must have a strong aspect of humanity attached, whether that be a respectable or deplorable trait. I think it's important that we see ourselves, even in the events of the deplorable. It helps me stay away from that role if I don't like myself in that particular characterization.

Consistency is key to me. At least then I know who or what I'm dealing with. Mencken was consistent.

I once had a friend who was an "upstanding" woman of society. She was all about reputation, good deeds, community involvement, class, refinement, etc.

I found out her father was an illegal gun dealer who operated out of a liquor store and was a high member of the KKK. It seems she spent her life trying to stamp out the seeds her father planted, but she let one grow into a strangling vine: Prejudice.

That's what made her whole life unbelievable to me. Her good deeds were a liquor store front for her father's bad seed, and she could never own up to it in public. This made her inconsistent and fragile in her loyalty as a friend, to me. Sorry if it seems I'm passing judgment, but actually she judged me as unworthy of her friendship because I felt my friends were worth more to me than being called "the black people," (or worse) behind their backs.

We parted ways, and I lost her "influence" among certain social circles, but I'm consistently hopeful she'll stray one day, free from the thing that she shackled herself to her father with.

Whatever is written/exposed isn't always a revealing. That's why I appreciate it when it is, even if I disagree.


Huan Yi
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29 posted 08-17-2007 09:24 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

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There is something
in the Western mentality
that insists on being the sinner.
The ones, who guilty,
are deserving of blame.
A sort of cultural Mia Culpa
without which there is no salvation.


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Brad
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30 posted 08-17-2007 10:03 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

On the contrary, the villification of the other is an attempt at exculpation. Villifying culture, even if it's your own, is simply one more method of exculpation.

Personally, the idea that 'we must feel guilty'  can be countered in two ways: either it is wrong and history is ignored and/or twisted, or it is accepted but tempered with a little humor.

I prefer the latter. Mencken's writing depends on the interaction between the two.

 
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