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Huan Yi
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0 posted 07-19-2007 09:40 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

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RICHMOND, Va. —  The Michael Vick dogfighting case made its way to the floor of the U.S. Senate Thursday when its most senior member publicly declared his outrage, saying he's witnessed one execution but wouldn't mind seeing another "if it involves this cruel, sadistic, cannibalistic business of training innocent, vulnerable creatures to kill."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290061,00.html


Do animals have souls?

Hope you’re not sunk into a cheese burger
while reading this.

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hush
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1 posted 07-20-2007 02:57 PM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Does it matter if animals have souls? They feel pain... is torture only wrong if the recipient has a soul? We can't even prove that people have souls.

Do I think the guy deserves execution if he's guilty? No... but I don't believe in the death penalty, period. Probably colors my opinion a bit.
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2 posted 07-20-2007 03:26 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

Are animals people?

I couldn't help but chuckle when I read the title.


I think hush summed it up pretty well.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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3 posted 07-20-2007 03:31 PM       View Profile for Ringo   Email Ringo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Ringo

While I do not think this type of "sport" or "entertainment" should even be allowed in non-polite circles, I do not believe that the death penalty is any more warranted than if he poisoned the neighbor's chihuahua or shot the parakeet on the other side.

I DO feel that, if convicted, Mr. Vick should be sentenced to the maximum allowed for the state statures for animal cruelty.
One unfortunate side effect to this entire situation, though, is that it is going to more than likely cost a very fine quarterback (and probably one of the best in the game) his career. As bad as it sounds, it would have been better had he been doing drugs in the back of a school bus with a bunch of 17 year olds. That would be more socially acceptable, and would have made him a bigger star.

Welcome to modern America.

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Edward Grim
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4 posted 07-20-2007 03:45 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

I think I'm going to start a side thread about this subject if you don't mind John.

“Well all the apostles, they’re sittin’ on the swings, sayin’ I’d sell off my savior for a set of new rings.”

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5 posted 07-20-2007 07:10 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

I just checked with my cats and they assure me they have souls. They also tell me that they sit around wondering if HUMANS have souls...
LeeJ
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I feel no compassion for anyone who abuses, be it animal or human...the mind of that abuser is sick, regardless if animals have souls or not...
 
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