Hi, thanks so much for your input…
That might help in the tactical sense (i.e., the short-term), but in order to be effective in the strategic sense, we need to win the support of the Iraqi people. We need to persuade them that the so-called “jihad” of the Islamo-fascists is not only anti-kafir (anti-“unbeliever”), it is also anti-Muslim. In short, there is nothing holy about their insurgency – we need to hold strong to this fact and convince the Iraqi people of this.
Jim - I agree, your idea would be paramount, but, how can you change a thousand year culture? That would be like them coming over here and trying to make us believe it’s ok, to do what they are doing…?
I think our current immigration policy is bigoted toward Hispanics. Would we be calling for immigration reform if 90% of illegal aliens were white Canadians? What ever happened to “Give us your tired, poor, and huddled masses”??? I am much more in favor of a more open immigration policy that encourages immigrants to seek citizenship through the system. I think it is possible to do this while balancing border security concerns.
I don’t think our immigration policy is bigoted toward Hispanics, its just that so many of them have chosen to violate not only our immigration policy but take advantage of our systems. And I believe I said, I’d like to see our immigration laws put in place and adhered to, then I agree with the rest of your quote on this subject.
With violent, repeat offenders, I think I agree. The punishment, however, must continue to fit the crime. There is a significant difference, in my opinion, between a serial rapist and someone reduced to stealing food to feed his or her family. Don't get me wrong ... both are problems. But one problem is solved by imprisonment and the other by "teaching a man to fish" (or making it possible for him to get to the lake).
Jim - totally agree with you on this subject…to the max…and I’m sorry if I didn’t clairify that issue better. Sometimes my brain wanders
I agree with one caveat. Increased funding alone is not the answer. I think we first need to identify teaching strategies that work, and then focus funding on the development and replication of evidence-based programs. Our education programs should be geared toward producing life-long learners and instilling in them a love of learning. Combined with #3 above, and you might be able to significantly curtail the incidence of repeat offenses.
Jim – Again, totally agree, adding courses on parenting and teaching a class on behavior such as the focus on decisions and how they affect so many other people, and also assuming responsibility for your choices, regardless of the circumstance, and teaching that problems can be solved…teaching respect for the law and for our elders, as our elders were the founders and reason for our being.
I think these strict laws and regulations already exist. NRC scrutiny of nuclear power plants is exceedingly high. Environmental regulations are also very strict when it comes to hazardous material production and management. When it comes down to it, it was the fail-safe redundancy at TMI that prevented it from being a Chernobyl. And when in the past thirty years have you heard of a Union Carbide-type accident on U.S. soil? My only wish is that we would try to be more proactive in our regulatory development and encourage other countries to adopt systems that have worked for us.
Jim Disagree…heres why....even though as you say, these laws are there, but they are not always implemented with the safety of the public in mind. Jim, my cousin’s daughter worked at a hospital in DE, during that year, there were 3 chemical accidents, that were never covered by the news, it was all hush, hush, and so, my cousin’s daughter moved back home, stating in years to come, those generations down there would be glowing.
Public places … I can agree with this. Private businesses? I simply cannot. And where does it stop? No more Bloomin’ Onions and marbled, rare 18 oz. porterhouses at Outback? No more McDonald’s french fries? No more Ben & Jerry’s Cherry Garcia? At some point, we simply need to require people to accept the consequences for immoderate, potentially self-destructive, choices.
Jim - I can’t agree more, and some of us here knew, it would only be a matter of time, until they started attacking obesity. Yanno, I’ve learned, whenever the news media starts coving an issue as such, I always go, ut ohhhhh…but, this I know to….my mom has a breathing disability…and I smoke.
I would never smoke in my home, or anyone else’s home for that matter…so for me, smoking outside isn’t a problem...but, its like opening a can of worms, once laws as such start to pass, the special interest groups want more and more…and it never ends…now, I’ve heard, they want to pass a law that you can’t smoke in your car with a child under the age of 10 or something of the like?????? Why don’t they energize all that money they're spending on smoking laws and really try to help children, demanding a child molester be put away for good??????
Public utilities are already required to submit this information to state regulators on a regular basis. State Consumer Advocates watch these things closely. I believe regulators can force the sale of public utilities that fail to meet quality and service standards. They are also required to notify customers when water quality is compromised. I’m comfortable with the state retaining jurisdiction over this. I think there could be tighter regulation of municipal authorities that provide utility service. But that is a different (and not so exciting) story.
Jim – yes, your right, they are, but because I worked construction, I know differently…wish things were on the up and up as you described, but they are not, believe me. If you want some examples, I’d be glad to offer them up to you.
So you oppose public welfare, but support corporate welfare? Where do governments go to make up the lost tax revenues? A quick question: is it possible for someone to be a “lifer” on welfare legitimately?
Jim - No, I don’t oppose public welfare, I believe that everyone one of us, at some time or another in our lives, have needed assistance, with bills, etc. What I oppose is someone who lives off of that system for life, which in turn trains their children, that it is ok to do that. It is not. The saying “Welfare breeds welfare is so true”
I’m for sensitivity, but think the PC crowd has trivialized very important issues. Language is a powerful thing, and it is possible to dehumanize a person with a simple adjective preceding the word “person.” When we say, “black person,” “Muslim person,” “disabled person,” “gay person,” are you more inclined to focus on the word “person” or the label? In many ways, the anti-Semite creates the Jew and the bigot creates the minority race insomuch as the anti-Semite and bigot regard the Jew and minority races to be subhuman. This takes me back to my response to #1. The key is to appeal to the common humanity we all share. When we all view one other as fellow, equal human beings, the misogyny, the racism, the discrimination on the basis of religion (or lack thereof), disability, marital status, etc. stand far better chances of fading away.
Ok, then allow me, if you will to say it differently…I believe our common humanity people in prisons should be looked at, and studied…and it should be brought out in public the majority of persons in those prisons…the problems for this might be lack of education or understanding of potential and opportunities.
Also, if a white cop, shoots a black man because the black man had a gun and shot at the white cop, or stabbed the white cop...the black man is responsible for breaking the law…
and if we reverse the situation, it should of course be the same, but unfortunately, some do not see it that way...
in my book, if you do the crime, you do the time, and that is the way common humanity should be viewed
All to often Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton and their groups are there raising the roof b/c a white man shot a black man in self defense. What is that???? If a black man shoots a white man, in self defense, you don't have that?
Now, if the situation is reversed, black man cop shoots white man criminal, there is no one there to protest…as it should be. But Jackson and Sharpton love the political agenda part of it and in turn, people are getting things all screwed up.
Jim, what I’m saying is, another subject taken all the way to the other end of the spectrum, which protects the criminals…
not fair to law abiding citizens....again…don’t care the color of your skin…if you commit a crime, i.e. robbery with a weapon, robbery with weapon & intent to harm, assault with weapon & intent to harm, murder, rape, and child molestation…no matter the color of skin…all laws should be respected, and if the law is broken, then the person that broke that law should be given a trial, and if found guilty, then committed to prison or a mental facility. Equality also stands for respect for the law?
I believe that is exactly what Martin Luther King preached.
Thanks Jim for all your input
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