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rwood
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25 posted 01-05-2007 04:34 PM       View Profile for rwood   Email rwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for rwood

Larry~ Spank spank.

LeeJ~ So true, but even when we use our minds we can be subjected to attacks/negativity. Whether self-imposed or from those around us.
I see us, as a whole, trying to use our minds, but undermining each other or our own selves, advertently or inadvertently. Usually for personal gain, or an easier way.  Everyone has his/her own idea of what is ideal, but even ideas have to presented properly, or people will slam the very notion of it, and then rush to get a patent and make money off of your ideas-haha.

It takes a lot of heart, as well, to hang in there, help others, and overcome issues so we can feel happy with our schtick n schtuff.

Thank you LeeJ.


Huan Yi~ Some choose to raise a child alone. I didn't have any choice. It was very hard, but we managed. My children are now 18 and 21. My daughter will graduate with honors in May and enter her choice of college, while my son has chosen IT tech, security. I am very proud of them.


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26 posted 01-05-2007 08:55 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

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"Some choose to raise a child alone."


And what percentage is afforded little choice
between that and abandonment?

Is it not possible that women’s “liberation”
ironically freed men
of any sense of obligation?

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27 posted 01-05-2007 09:30 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

This is a little interesting..

Urination will go to committee
A local decision that schoolboys must sit on toilet seats when urinating has provoked political debate.

The head of The Democrats Party, a splinter group of former Progress Party hardliners, Vidar Kleppe, is outraged that boys at Dvergsnes School in Kristiansand have to sit and pee.

Kleppe accuses the school of fiddling with God's work, and wants the matter discussed at the executive committee level of the local council, newspaper Dagbladet reports.

"When boys are not allowed to pee in the natural way, the way boys have done for generations, it is meddling with God's work," Kleppe told the newspaper.

"It is a human right not to have to sit down like a girl," Kleppe said.

Principal Anne Lise Gjul at Dvergsnes School would not comment on Kleppe's plans to make political waves and regretted if anyone was offended by the ban on standing and passing water.

Gjul told NRK (Norwegian Broadcasting) that the young boys are simply not good enough at aiming, and the point was to have a pleasant toilet that could be used by both boys and girls.


Do men have to stand for this? or CAN men stand for this? Equality of the sexes is fine but do we have to tinkle from the same position? Will they employ "potty police" to flush out males in good standing? Is the world going to pot? (am I losing it.....?)
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28 posted 01-06-2007 01:55 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

'Is it not possible that women’s “liberation”
ironically freed men
of any sense of obligation?'

Hmmm... is this a "bad" thing? I'm not being rhetorical, I'm honestly wondering.

There was an interesting thread a while back ago about how if abortion is legal, should it be legal for men to, say, abort their financial and emotional responsibility to an unwanted child... I think Jim posted it. You might want to check it out.

I was raised by a single mom, and never wanted for anything, and I can't say I would ahve wanted it any other way.
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29 posted 01-06-2007 02:33 AM       View Profile for Mysteria   Email Mysteria   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Mysteria

Reggie, forgive me as I tried to control these fingers but I just have to respond to Michael.  I have to tell you I would pay just about anything to be there the day some guy goes to sit down to pee, and someone other jerk left the seat up by violating that rule.  I love this step toward equality and look forward to standing up much more if its enforced to avoid even more filthy washrooms when they go to unisex.  Sheesh!

Just for the record, woman can do it standing or sitting and do all the time.  
Huan Yi
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30 posted 01-06-2007 03:33 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

Hush,

“Hmmm... is this a "bad" thing? I'm not being rhetorical, I'm honestly wondering.”

From a man who was only after one thing, (or any other for that matter), perspective,
how could it be?  He was  given freedom of choice.  Anyone remember: “doing
the right thing”?  How many were otherwise condemned for the rest of their lives with
the company of someone who was only intended as a convenient interval while
he waited for “the one”?

I’m not sure it was so much “women’s liberation” as the “pill” that did it.
With the latter readily available it was hard to argue its omission did not
involve an element of calculation, ( as opposed to passion).

hush
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31 posted 01-07-2007 12:56 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

As a former taker of the pill, I can attest that its omission was often simply a human factor: forgetfulness. Hence the advent of newer, longer working routes of dosing.
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Well, just for the record the wettest toilet seat I ever found was in a publice restroom after following the woman who was in there last. Proof she shouldn't have been standing.

P.S. Reg I've been spanked for telling the truth before...

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane,
I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

rwood
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33 posted 01-07-2007 09:36 AM       View Profile for rwood   Email rwood   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for rwood

Huan Yi~ I couldn't give you percentages, since even the government's census is incorrect, but the numbers are High, in instances of abandonment, or else our system wouldn't be backed up with claims upon dead-beat moms/dads and the children's homes wouldn't be full.

"Is it not possible that women’s "liberation"
ironically freed men
of any sense of obligation?"

Two words there:

"Liberation."  From Oppression.  

Sure, the short answer is: Freedom is costly.

"Obligation."

I just loved my kids, and if I based motherhood upon obligation, I would have signed myself into a mental hospital and begged out. My children didn't always warrant obligation during times such as: Food fights, with my hard earned groceries hanging off the ceiling instead of filling their bellies. Identity establishment, such as one child loving gospel music and the other loving Rob Zombie, and they'd have Volume Wars, while I was trying to grab a couple hours of sleep/peace for my next job. Obligations don't even require contact/interaction. I know many that just write checks, which is helpful, but still detached.

Michael~ Sanitary issues are important, but I don't think little girls are more clean about anything. One drop of urine is still urine. And I don't even want to go into the sanitary issues of menses. Somebody has to clean it all up, so I'm sure that's where the stink has started. And...ummm...even when little boys sit down, they have to hold onto the seat to keep from falling in. Sometimes the aim is straight up, bless their hearts.

hush~ I appreciate you and your mom.

Mysteria~ Laugh! You Go girl. But I can't write my name in the snow. Hmph..pouting.

Huan Yi~ Yep, with everything there is possibility of manipulation, or womanipulation...New word.

Larry~ I know, there's just something icky about public restrooms in general, but ya gotta go sometimes. Gotta love ya.




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