Greenville, South Carolina
“What if the mother is say 13 my age or fourteen or younger than 18? do they still have the baby? Is that fair to the mother or too the child?”
Ok, let me tell you something that you will hear a hundred million times in your life and every time will be true. Life is not fair. The only thing we have to survive life is to try and follow what is wrong and what is right. Now, certain people today, try to fudge around with what is right and wrong. Of course certain things aren’t crystal clear as to what's right or wrong, but the basic things are simple. Killing is wrong.
“Sounds like you don't care about the mother or the child and to you it only matters whether the child lives to be born ,not whether it lives to turn 1 or lives to go to school or any of that.”
[Edited Unnecesary insults removed - Ron] Let me ask you a question: Do you think every child dies when it’s born? It sounds like that's what you're saying. If the child dies, it’s the negligence of the “parent.” If the parent is a child (and 13 is the age of a child) then first off, they shouldn’t be having sexual intercourse. And if the child parent thinks they’re mature enough to be having sexual relations then shouldn’t they be mature enough to know what to do with the baby? Well guess what, they don’t know, because they are unintelligent and immature. Children should not be having children.
“One way a unborn child dies the other a mothers life is destroyed maybe.”
How do you figure? How would the mother’s life be destroyed? Walking around pregnant would already hurt her life enough. Pregnancy is quite obvious. How would birthing the child destroy her life? She has the child and gives it up. At least he/she would have the chance to live and see the age of 1 and go to school. Do you know what DCF is? Department of Children and Families. That is a government funded organization that puts unwanted children in foster homes and even let’s families adopt the children. (1-800-96-ADOPT) DCF removes children from abusive homes and their main goal is to help children and families, hence the name.
“O.k, killing is wrong. But if it is wrong for abortion then why is it o.k to kill in a war we didn't need to have?”
[Edited Unnecesary insults removed - Ron] First off, what does the war in Iraq have ANYTHING to do with what we’re talking about? What? Nothing, absolutely nothing, it’s totally irrelevant. That’s like me saying “What about Colin Powell?” when we’re talking about colon cancer. [Edited Unnecesary insults removed - Ron]
I love how you said “Killing is wrong, but…” That is such an askew statement. Killing is wrong period.
“How can our country justify killing innocents who are born but we refuse to give a women a choice that she deserves to make because she aborts her child?”
Your own statement disproves your whole argument. You’re asking: “Why do we have a right to kill in Iraq?” Well, why should women have a right to kill her baby? It’s no different. Neither has a right.
“THis is differnt if the mother got pregnant through a gang related thing or lives in the streets do you really want to make the mother put her blood through what she goes through?”
Absolutely not, the girl should give up her baby to someone who can take care of the child. I believe I already mentioned the establishments suitably for taking a baby.
“Could you really stomach watching a child be born and 2 years later have the child get got in gang war and shot?”
What the heck is a child doing in a gang war at 2 years old? Did the mother bring the kid to the battle? What, did she have a shotgun in one hand and her kid in the other? And according to you I could probably could stomach it because, and I quote, “you don't care about the mother or the child.” Well, I do care very deeply for both mother and child so no I couldn’t stomach it which is why it’s absurd to think that a mother would expose her kid to that.
“REality check not everyone can choose everything about what is going to happen .”
Ok, here’s a reality check for you: No you can’t choose what’s going on and that’s why you do something about it. Let’s look at slavery. People didn’t choose to be slaves but they worked to correct to it through autonomy, bravery and enough head sense to know what to do and what they were doing was right.
“What if she lives with a on drugs father and abused mother or the boyfriend or who lives with her is a drug dealer or a druggie or she is addicted to drugs?”
Huh, again, I’m trying to decipher this. First off, if the mother is taking drugs while pregnant, the kid probably wouldn’t survive in the womb. Yes, the mother would probably abort but that doesn’t make it right. She could’ve had the child and given it to the right people so the child could have had a better life. But that little baby never got the chance to live.
“Well if they are going to be having sex then be safe about it.”
Yes, safe sex is essential. But teenagers shouldn’t be having any kind of sex. Condoms only go so far; a girl can still get pregnant.
“What if its too late and the mother is already pregnant , what if she won't be able to have the child and raise it right”
This will be the last time I’ll say this because I don’t want to be redundant. If she can’t care for the child then she should give it up to the right people and organizations; THEY ARE ALWAYS THERE.
“THe child probaly won't get adopted the chances aren't that high.”
Where did you get that idea? Again, that’s a very cynical thing to say. There are so many programs working to get placements for all kids.
“What if she'd rather spare the child growing up motherless and in an orphanage?”
That’s not her right to do so. Ok, well what if I want to spare that homeless man from living on the streets and I kill him? Do you think I’d be prosecuted? YES! I was watching to news the other day about a bunch a guys that killed a homeless man, they were all jailed. Do you see my point? You can’t just exterminate a human life to spare suffering. And another thing, the child very well might have a mother and a good family through foster care or adoption. The chances are much much higher than you think
“But what if the mother doesn't want to have the child”
What if a mother doesn’t want her teenager anymore? Does that give her the right to kill? I think not, no, I know not.
“The govt could care less about street kids, long as eventually they vote for them and give money. People who would disregarding background age and race are few and far in between”
I think you’ve been watching too much TV. There already are government programs to help kids, yes even street kids. Don't get me wrong, I loathe politicians. I'm so despised by the goevernment, I'm a nonpartison and refuse to vote. But they do on occasion do things. People wouldn't vote and give them money if they didn't do anything. There are many ways that children are being protected. And why do you only use gangs, street kids, and drug addicts for examples?
“The children more likely will get adopted for being cute. There are more people who get attached and decide oh lets go adopt a cute kid. than people who do it to be helping”
That is very very wrong. You are wrong with that. People do it to help, I should know.
“And if they are raped or didn't mean to or are young?”
“You guys are the ones who made the point about god taking lives righteously”
I was never involved in that discussion.
“If the mother might die having the child”
Ok, it’s not the 1800’s. It is a rarity for a woman to die giving birth nowadays. Yes it still happens but rarely. Hospitals aren't fairly tales.
“um, yah but we could of used some interfering and the rest of the Freakin world just stood by..Cowards..”
Would you want God interfering in your life? That’s not how He works. At least not now.
”ANd I repeat that was for the ones who mentioned the God taking lives thing”
Yes I realize that but I am still not understanding your claims about how God kills.
“Was God's act of taking life based on righteous judgment during the holoacaust, siearra leone civil war,darfur, stalins killings, wars,gang wars, Columbine such like that. What was right about taking those live?”
You are saying that God maliciously kills and that's a false comment.
And I said to the devil, "You better leave my spleen alone."
[This message has been edited by Ron (01-11-2007 11:59 PM).]