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Local Rebel
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50 posted 12-28-2006 09:54 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

quote:

I'd imagine that I'm the youngest one on this thread and I realize that these subjects seem rather unimportant for adults to be talking about.



Even without my glasses on I can read that sentence Edward.  But, it's clear -- you haven't actually read any of those threads.
Edward Grim
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51 posted 12-28-2006 10:09 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

You're editorializing it. I said:

"I'd imagine that I'm the youngest one on this thread and I realize that these subjects seem rather unimportant for adults to be talking about. So what if there is life somewhere else?"

Maybe you didn't read the sentence after that:

"So what if there is life somewhere else?"

I said that in respects to speaking about ET.

Now you're just reaching and trying to plant your feet on anything. But clearly you're running out of room. Maybe you feel that you're on a mission to win the arguement with the 18 year old? Save face, save pride or save something.

And I said to the devil, "You better leave my spleen alone."

Local Rebel
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52 posted 12-28-2006 10:31 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

Is "these subjects" singular or plural?
Edward Grim
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53 posted 12-28-2006 11:12 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

This is going along the lines of being pathetic now. When I said you were reaching, I didn't know how good you are at it.

Obviously "these threads" is plural. But I was still speaking in respects to the ET topic because this isn't the first time aliens have been the subject of a thread. And clearly I wrote "They are all the same:" with a colon to list the threads that are in fact all the same.

You know, I feel that we are beating around the bush here.

You've been whittled down to a single question to support your arguement. And that question has no ground to stand on. What more do you want out of this?

And I said to the devil, "You better leave my spleen alone."

Local Rebel
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54 posted 12-29-2006 06:03 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

I'm not whittled down to my last question at all Edward -- you're just down to your last pawn.

There isn't anyone with a command of the English language that's going to buy you're bifurcated thesis that you now want to put forth.

What more I want out of this is what I've said from the beginning.... defend your position.  Show us why these topics are 'unimportant'.  

If you don't want to do that, and want to insist that you don't have enough command of the English language to actually write what you meant and that the 'unimportant' label doesn't apply to the topics you did list -- which have nothing to do with Aliens at all -- then... prove your purported new thesis.

That they are all the same.

In fact... I'll let you off if you can just prove that these two are the same:

Could God Give a Computer a Soul?
Jesus......REJECTED!
Edward Grim
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55 posted 12-30-2006 08:47 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

All right, I'll admit it when I'm wrong. I didn't correctly explain my thoughts, I figured I didn’t have to spell things out for a five year old. I was, in fact saying that an alien thread seems silly in the Alley; that's all. Though I did say that from the start:

"these subjects seem rather unimportant for adults to be talking about. SO WHAT IF THERE IS LIFE SOMEWHERE ELSE? You'll still lose your marrow when you die.  All these threads, the hundreds of discussions ABOUT GOD AND WHAT NOT... They're all the same:"

And I think everyone got the idea loud and clear what I was trying to say. But you were the one who got all high and mighty about it. You let your ego take over and it made you nasty. You were the first to reply to my post, and what you said from the start was downright disdainful. You were being very confrontational. I think I realize now why, because in the list I posted, I named one of your threads (that you probably worked hard on like everything else you do). I didn't realize the computer thread was yours, I didn't even think about it. But I am sure that you took it personally when you saw your topic on my list.

"There isn't anyone with a command of the English language that's going to buy you're bifurcated thesis that you now want to put forth."


"If you don't want to do that, and want to insist that you don't have enough command of the English language to actually write what you meant"


There's a few words that PiP's won't allow me to use, so I can't correctly portray my thoughts. But let me just say that you might be the most condescending person on here, unnecessarily condescending. The two quotes from you are just... well, nasty. Your ego is too large and your mouth is that of a septic tank. I've stated this problem to you before and you've ignored my statements, perhaps you're in denial as to how rude you really are. After reading this, you will probably brush it off and go back to my comments and point out the things I have said but remember: my first post was humorous. Your reply to my post was meant to degrade and that's how I took it, so I gave it right back to you. And just the fact that you use words like "bifurcated" tells me that you use your knowledge to make yourself feel higher than people. It doesn't work mind you, but it doesn't feel good either, it’s obtuse.


"In fact... I'll let you off if you can just prove that these two are the same:
Could God Give a Computer a Soul?
Jesus......REJECTED!"

This tells me that you were directly offended by my list; you're selfishly offended, it's all about you. Of all the ones on the list, you picked yours and another's. What I was trying to say, is that those threads about God were strange. (Could God give a computer a soul? I wonder? Could God give a rock a soul? Or could He give some hand lotion a soul? Maybe a pen? Or a cardboard box? So yes, that is silly)  And they are similar because they both deal with God. The toy thread from Balladeer wasn’t silly at all. And for that I apologize to balladeer. I can't say it any other way.

I tried numerously to end this but you didn't want peace obviously, you wanted band-aids for your broken ego to make you happy (in reference to me listing your thread). I'm sure your ego is fine now. Though I really feel sorry that you feel that you have to be this way to get anyone to interact with you. You turned a very harmless joke into something as stupid as your whole argument. Huan's very first post had humor in it:

"Great  . . .So instead of God they’re looking for Spock."

I thought that meant it was ok to joke around. Plain and simply you blew everything out of proportion:

“When you insulted everyone on planet Earth Ed, that was levity.  Trite and hack, sure, but -- we specialize in that when it comes to levity”

"You went on, rather unfortunately, to insult Ron, his forums, and everyone who participates in discussion threads."

   Sounds like you were looking for a fight and you got one. I'm tired of this.

"Surely you have more important things to think about."

You know what, maybe you're right. I've already wasted enough time on a rude old man.

Have a happy new year and God bless.  – Ed

And I said to the devil, "You better leave my spleen alone."

Local Rebel
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56 posted 12-30-2006 11:22 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

The insolent are always outraged when challenged.
Edward Grim
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57 posted 12-30-2006 11:45 PM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

Yes that's true. But you can't hide behind that excuse forever. Ya need to start owning up...

And I said to the devil, "You better leave my spleen alone."

Local Rebel
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58 posted 12-31-2006 12:17 AM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

I'm not hiding anything Edward.  But, according to you I should hide my vocabulary?

It's rather, you, that keeps bobbing and weaving around.  But, if you can't back up your assertions -- then you just can't.

You're the one making hasty generalizations, but, you aren't Loki.
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59 posted 12-31-2006 12:34 AM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

"I'm not hiding anything Edward.  But, according to you I should hide my vocabulary?"

LOL I figured you'd focus on one thing and forget the rest. You think I want you to hide your absolutely amazing vocabulary because I said:

"you use words like "bifurcated" tells me that you use your knowledge to make yourself feel higher than people."

I think you should hide how utterly rude you are.

"It's rather, you, that keeps bobbing and weaving around."

But you're the one that can't answer a question unless it's with another question. Lol, you are unbelievable.

"But, if you can't back up your assertions -- then you just can't."

How can you not see how rude and offensive you are? You never reply on that. I wonder why...
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60 posted 12-31-2006 12:48 AM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

I'll leave that as a matter to the galley Edward.
Edward Grim
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61 posted 12-31-2006 01:01 AM       View Profile for Edward Grim   Email Edward Grim   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Edward Grim's Home Page   View IP for Edward Grim

Lol, and you call me ambiguous. What a crock
Local Rebel
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62 posted 12-31-2006 01:33 AM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

There's nothing ambiguous about that statement at all Edward. (Typo aside,my apologies) It is a matter for the galleRy to decide who is being rude or not.

If one man calls me a jackass I have no concern about it whatsoever.  Especially when that man made his debut by insulting everyone.

If, however -- five men call me a jackass -- then -- I'll be on my way to the saddle store.
Huan Yi
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63 posted 12-31-2006 03:06 AM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

.

How far way is the nearest star apart from our own?
How long would it take to get there or get here?


How old would any event seen on that star,
by the most powerful telescope, be
relative to the observer?

How far then, (and all the other questions), is the star,
apart from our own, that has a thing that we would categorize as a planet?

.
Brad
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64 posted 12-31-2006 04:06 AM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

'bifurcated' is a difficult word? I admit I don't get what's going on here.

The nearest star is our sun.

The second nearest star is roughly 4 light years away, the Centauri system.

What it all comes down to, I guess, is significance. The ability to detect terrestrial planets around other star systems is an amazing thing. So were/are the Mars landers, the Titan probe and the trip to Pluto.

None of these, I suspect, will have any real world significance for you. They do for me.

Vote for a different congressman next time?
Local Rebel
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65 posted 12-31-2006 08:59 AM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

Given the fate of the dinasaurs -- doesn't space exploration have real world significance?

quote:

It is the stuff of nightmares and, until now, Hollywood thrillers. A huge asteroid is on a catastrophic collision course with Earth and mankind is poised to go the way of the dinosaurs.
To save the day, Nasa now plans to go where only Bruce Willis has gone before. The US space agency is drawing up plans to land an astronaut on an asteroid hurtling through space at more than 30,000 mph. It wants to know whether humans could master techniques needed to deflect such a doomsday object when it is eventually identified. The proposals are at an early stage, and a spacecraft needed just to send an astronaut that far into space exists only on the drawing board, but they are deadly serious. A smallish asteroid called Apophis has already been identified as a possible threat to Earth in 2036.

Chris McKay of the Nasa Johnson Space Centre in Houston told the website Space.com: "There's a lot of public resonance with the notion that Nasa ought to be doing something about killer asteroids ... to be able to send serious equipment to an asteroid.

"The public wants us to have mastered the problem of dealing with asteroids. So being able to have astronauts go out there and sort of poke one with a stick would be scientifically valuable as well as demonstrate human capabilities."

A 1bn tonne asteroid just 1km across striking the Earth at a 45 degree angle could generate the equivalent of a 50,000 megatonne thermonuclear explosion. Attempting to break it up with an atomic warhead might only generate thousands of smaller objects on a similar course, which could have time to reform. Scientists agree the best approach, given enough warning, would be to gently nudge the object into a safer orbit.

"A human mission to a near Earth asteroid would be scientifically worthwhile," Dr McKay said. "There could be testing of various approaches. We don't know enough about asteroids right now to know the best strategy for mitigation."

Matt Genge, a space researcher at Imperial College, London, has calculated that something with the mass, acceleration and thrust of a small car could push an asteroid weighing a billion tonnes out of the path of Earth in just 75 days.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,,1950258,00.html

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