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Huan Yi
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At what point now do you pull the trigger
on a country, a people, a movement, threatening your own?

Iím thinking about Iran for the moment as an example;
in particular a response that Bush made to a question
in Britain in which he painted a plausible scenario
of a nuclear Iran controlling the Middle East resources
and using that as well as  funding, (as in Lebanon), movements
to injure, if not destroy the West, motivated
by apocalyptic aspirations.  


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quote:
At what point now do you pull the trigger
on a country, a people, a movement, threatening your own?


quote:
Iím thinking about Iran for the moment as an example;


Is this a joke?
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It obviously wasn't intended as a joke.
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3 posted 12-09-2006 06:30 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Dec.7

quote:
A short time ago, in Germany, I spoke with one of the senior advisors of Chancellor Angela Merkel. I noted that a criminal complaint had been filed against Donald Rumsfeld and a number of others invoking universal jurisdiction for war crimes offenses. How would the chancellor see this, I asked? There was a long pause, and I fully expected to get a brush-off response. But what came was very surprising. "You must remember," said the advisor, "that my chancellor was born and raised in a totalitarian state. She cannot be indifferent to questions of this sort. In fact, she views them as matters of the utmost gravity and they will be treated that way. The Nuremberg process happened in my country. It was painful for us. But we absorbed it. It became a part of our legacy. An important part of our legacy. We will not forget it. But I have to ask you: why has your country forgotten?"

That is a question to reflect upon on this day, on December 7. The time has come to remember.


As is pointed out in this essay as well, perhaps we should also remember FDR's first innaugural, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
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Letís assume for a moment that
the question is asked in Israel.

Brad
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Uh, why?

The endless promotion of fear for its own sake?
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Very well,
that I should have to walk in my stocking feet
through a security check point at the airport in Albuquerque
two days ago is a consequence of a Bush administration plot
to keep us all falsely concerned.
Silly me.

P.S.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,235686,00.html

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"The conference, scheduled for Sunday and Monday, was organized by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who has called the systematic killing of some 6 million Jews a "myth" and "exaggerated." '

My parents will be relieved it didn't happen;
just a bad dream . . .


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You start with Pearl Harbor, then the destruction of the West, then Israel, and now the Holocaust, what's next?

Vigilence is good, paranoia gets people killed.

Sorry to hurt your feelings but it would really help if you stayed on one topic.
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Brad,

Are you willing to accept
that there are today men and women willing to die
to kill driven by their religious convictions?
Are you willing to accept that those same men
and women armed with weapons of mass destruction
are of concern?

I only went to Israel to shorten the distance between
hypothesis and reality.  I only went to the Holocaust
and my parentsí experience of it to remind that the
threat is not without historical precedent.

John

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quote:
At what point now do you pull the trigger
on a country, a people, a movement, threatening your own?


And this also has an historical precedent.

And, of course, there are people who believe that we should kill them all and let God decide.

And they do have WMD's.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/6183061.stm
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