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25 posted 11-21-2006 10:10 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

Balladeer, I agree with you in part, primarily on the corruption issue and that Pelosi is already apparently contradicting her post-election promise to "drain the swamp" and promote the "most honest and ethical Congress in history", first by endorsing a representative with a history of corruption contamination, and now by pushing a candidate who was actually impeached previously for bribery and perjury (the Congress voted 413 to 4 to impeach him, about as much a landslide as Congress rallying against Rangel's draft bill, and later the Senate voted 69 to 26 to remove him entirely from office)

I personally believe neither Alcee Hastings nor Jane Harman should assume the chairman role for the House intelligence committee, and that representative Rush Holt Jr. would be a much better and more ethical choice who is on the committee as well. He has been an intelligence analyst at the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research and also has experience dealing with nuclear issues, thus makes him well-experienced for the position, and in addition, he has a clean public record on ethics and also has been vocal toward the Bush Administration in changing the course in Iraq for some time.

I think it's quite unfortunate and hypocritical Pelosi is playing to these sort of racial politics as a primary excuse for selecting a disgraced candidate to assume this role, rather than hold to a notion she addressed as recently as a week and a half ago (which I already thought was saying and promising too much, as realistically corruption will always exist in Congress in one shape or another, but it doesn't excuse our elected officials in providing accountability and oversight to such measures.)

I already am gravely skeptical that Pelosi will be any more competent as a House Speaker than Dennis Hastert or Newt Gingrich, who they themselves are major jokes of speakers as they are, when the former even had the gall to say that spending federal money to rebuild New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina "doesn't make sense to me." I hope she can prove me wrong here, and I will give her a month or so to try and prove herself, but I must say I have intense doubts.

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Regarding your earlier point about Bush never pandering to public opinion, this is where I strongly disagree with you. I find many of his decisions have been calculated and politically-motivated, including as recently as accepting the resignation of Donald Rumsfeld AFTER the mid-term elections two weeks ago, despite saying as soon as four days before the election that Rumsfeld would stay on the job until the end of his presidency. It would certainly seem Bush was for Rumsfeld before he was against him! LOL!

Remember Harriet Miers? Bush was staunchly defending this Supreme Court nominee even as much criticism began coming out, and then finally he bowed to political pressure from the far-right to rescind her nomination. If the president truly wasn't bowing to public pressure, surely he would have ignored vast criticism, allowed the hearings to happen and allow a floor vote to happen where she probably would have lost anyway, right?

Remember the Dubai deal, when he was strongly backing the deal despite unanimous opposition, and rather than standing up for what he believed in under belief that rejecting the deal would make us appear bigoted and intolerant in the eyes of the world, bowed to public pressure and de-railed the deal.

Remember his statements during the 2000 campaign saying he opposed nation-building which contradict his position now on the war on Iraq, or in May 2002 originally opposing the forming of an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 attacks before later that September reversing his position, or originally opposing the creation of a new Department of Homeland Security before U-turning toward the largest expansion of the federal government since the creation of the Defense Department in 1949?

Remember also, during the 2000 campaign, when he said he was against federal intervention regarding the issue of same-sex marriage, and believed states should have the right to decide for themselves, but later and ever since has been spearheading the support for an amendment to the Constitution that defines marriage as being exclusively between a man and a woman?

Hmmmmm, I guess it's just me and there truly is no bowing to public pressure there, LOL!

But on a more serious note, I believe it helps to have a balance between standing up for what you believe in, and understanding what the public wants you to accomplish. Relying heavily bent on the former only encourages autonomy and stubbornness, which can leave an individual wrapped up too much in ones self and truly not understanding what the public wants, while relying too much on the latter only encourages opportunism and the questioning of ones character. I believe indeed one should have conviction, integrity and vision.....but also be flexible, tolerant and accept criticism. And I believe Bush is too heavily stubborn generally, while those like Hillary Clinton and John McCain are too heavily opportunistic generally.

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26 posted 11-21-2006 10:34 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Noah, I stand corrected. There HAVE been cases where Bush has conceded. as you brought up. I was thinking more along the lines of Iraq and stem cell research.

Remember the Dubai deal, when he was strongly backing the deal despite unanimous opposition, and rather than standing up for what he believed in under belief that rejecting the deal would make us appear bigoted and intolerant in the eyes of the world, bowed to public pressure and de-railed the deal.

That one is a little unfair, though. The"unanimous opposition" was a few Democratic senators trying to make political fodder out of the opportunity. The only reason public disapproval came to be was that those Democrats created it. Yes,Bush screwed up. He should have exposed the democratic rabble for what it was and insteead he caved in, thereby making the US look weak and bigoted  inthe  eyes of many. If he had NOT bowed to the pressure and  stuck to his guns,I doubt you would have applauded him for doing so, though.  

I agree with you concerns over Pelosi....only  one week in office and she's got quite a record already.   One can only imagine what's next.....
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27 posted 11-21-2006 11:19 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

As I said about the Democratic promises..

WASHINGTON — Advocates for abortion rights, gun control and gay rights say they are thrilled by the Democratic takeover of Congress. Even so, they admit their issues aren't likely to be addressed early — or at all — during the legislative session that begins in January.

"I'm aware of political reality when you're coming up to a presidential election," says Caroline Fredrickson, Washington legislative director for the American Civil Liberties Union. "I'm afraid (Democrats will) be a little too cautious."


hmmm....so let's get this straight. The Democrats get into office with promises they are not going to get around to because they need to concentrate on the presidential election in two years. Doen't it seem their only concern is elections and they just go from one to another?

Among the liberal causes likely on hold:

•Abortion rights. Although she picked up 22 allies in the House and three in the Senate, Nancy Keenan of NARAL Pro-Choice America says federal efforts to reduce unintended pregnancies by promoting sex education and making contraceptives more available must wait. "We have some bigger issues to be dealt with early on," she says.

•Gun control: Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, says he has seen a list of the top 100 Democratic priorities; reinstating the now-expired ban on military-style assault weapons is "in the 90s." At least, he says, conservatives can't weaken gun control laws.

•Gay rights. David Smith of the Human Rights Campaign, a gay advocacy group, expects Democrats to push legislation to bar workplace discrimination against gays and amend the federal hate crimes law to include sexual orientation. Still, he says, those changes won't come until "much later" in the session.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-11-21-democrats-advocates_x.htm?csp=34

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28 posted 11-21-2006 11:46 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

I can understand where you were coming from in your previous response, and just wanted to confirm it by pointing out a superlative like "never" would be too far of a stretch, though in general I do credit Bush for being steadfast on many positions, even when I don't agree with many of them. And yes, I do appreciate that Bush finally understood that it wasn't worth holding to the Dubai deal, even while I can completely understand his fears and concerns emotionally during that time.

As I mentioned before, I don't feel or trust Pelosi as an elected official, and not for the same reason some pundits have expressed in that she's from the city of San Francisco, which happens to be much more liberal as a community than a vast majority of other American cities, but because she seems to lack vision and a general idea of how to positively shape this nation, and has publicly resorted more often to unilateralism and name-calling that's no better than that administration officials have resorted to as well, and I just don't think she'll be a persuasive role model in terms of bi-partisanship.

It truly is a remarkable achievement in the sense that we have a woman for the first time in our nation's history assuming the role of House Speaker, but that isn't the point or issue whatsoever here, and that I believe what Americans truly want most of all right now is someone who can simply repair the broken bridges between polarized Americans, and has an effective record at performance and collaboration.

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29 posted 11-21-2006 11:56 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

I'm in complete agreement, Noah
 
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