Member Rara Avis
Very little was ever done in the last year to address the issue of rudeness that kept popping up over and over. I pulled out last fall after it became rather apparent personal attacks, some veiled, others not, and off top, baiting, button pushing posts were going to be allowed to continue and disrupt the forum, that mods and admins were not going to step up and try to keep that sort of thing in check as is routinely done in other forums.
Jennifer, you have my sincere apologies. I didn't know. Which is not an excuse, but rather an admission of culpability, because I certainly should have known. I clearly need to spend more time reading in the poetry forums.
The problems arose principally because the forum could not or would not be structured in such a way as to provide clarity as to purpose ...
Whose purpose, Rob?
But most reasonable people in a forum tagged as a workshop and as a place to discuss poetry would expect, for such a place to function, a degree of two way communication, or at least the politeness of a thank you or acknowledgement.
Why? Are you suggesting that the purpose you spoke of earlier was to promote two-way communication and exchanges of thank-yous? That certainly was never my purpose for CA, Rob, and frankly, I'd be surprised to discover it was yours either. More importantly, it was deliberately never part of the rules or structure.
MY purpose for CA, as with all the forums here, was to promote communication in the form of poetry. It's nice when the communication is two-way, and it's wonderful when the poetry is effective and beautiful, but those are resulting benefits not starting-point criteria. Those things can't be forced upon others. You can hold out your hand, but you can't make someone shake it. The most you can do is try to exclude those who refuse.
Monk Frost was not a disruption in the forum. He didn't hurt anyone and he didn't stop others from doing what they were there to do. His only crime was not doing what others thought he should. Ultimately, it wasn't the poster's actions that provoked an attack, but rather his lack of actions. Grinch seemed to be the only one willing to accept Monk Frost at face value, and I thank him for that.
You're clearly right, though, Rob. Clarity of purpose was obviously missing, and that's my fault. It wasn't for lack of trying, though. As evidenced, I think, by the age and depth of this thread?
The failure of Critical Analysis was, indeed, mine, guys. On many different levels. And I suspect, now, my greatest failure was probably being too stubborn to realize earlier that it was beyond my capabilities. I just didn't have what it takes to make it work.