and thanks to you all for your feedback on this issue.
Icebox and Deer I'm with you both all the way on this one...
Again...gun laws "are" adheared to by law abiding citizens. They are not and will never be adheared to by criminals.
No matter how many gun laws are and will be in place, nothing will stop a criminal who is looking for his next fix or...looking to rape a child or keep him from raping a woman and killing her so he won't be identified.
Gun laws will not protect our children, or keep criminals from stealing our children and selling them into 3rd world prostitution rings. Gun laws will not keep the drug cartels from selling drugs and killing those who buy drugs and don't pay up.
Ron, of course I've broken laws such as speeding (2 traffic tickets in my lifetime) and no, I don't deem myself to be perfect. And actually quit embarrassed about it and
Yes, absolutely I did wrong, and paid for my actions Ron, as it should be...and will say in all honesty, if I murder (take someone's life, or harm another in any way, then I am not safe or a productive member of society, and deserve to go to prision for the rest of my life.
Do I speed, I try my darnest not to...and will say, most of the time, no I don't, but if my eyes were afixed to my speed domitor all the time, I couldn't see where I was going. I'm certain, that the needle goes over the speed limit from time to time Ron. I will say though, I at my age, really dislike speeding.
Ron, I've had to stop twice in my lifetime, to avoid hitting a child who ran out in the road, and many times to avoid getting hit by someone who pulled out in front of me, so, thank God for becoming more aware of my speed.
Difference is Ron, I would not hold up a store at gun point...rob an old woman with a knife or gun, pistol whip someone for their money, rape a child at gun point...and then kill them...or a woman...rob someone for a fix, kill someone because they owe me money for drugs, I'm the same as you or anyone else in this forum. None of us are perfect, but....we all have standards and wouldn't think of taking another human beings life. One can hardly compare a traffic ticket, to cold blooded murder...and yes, there absolutely "is" a big difference. We're talking apples and oranges here.
Ron, curious, are you saying then, that someone who ties their wife to a car, and drags her until she is dead, who is 35 years old, and a repeated offender, can be rehabilitated...????
Or someone who rapes a child, who is a repeated offender, can be rehabilitated and put back on the streets again and again.
My next question would be, then do you believe that these repeated offenders will not be able to purchase a gun, because of new gun laws?
Believe me, these criminals will in fact gain guns the moment they are left free from jail.
They know who to contact, and for the right price, they will have a piece in the hands within hours....
Kevin Felder, 25, (A Felon)accused of firing at the car carrying Casha'e Rivers, 5 years old, because he (thought) it was tailing him???
This guy is a convicted Felon??? Why was he out????? And because he was, a five year old child is gone forever????
I'm interested in knowing how much medication they had him on and how long he was under the care of a physiciatrist while in prision, and why he was left free...
These are the questions we have to ask ourselves. How many prisioners went under theropy and were medicated and for how long? and how many of them are repeated offenders, and where did they get their guns from?
Fact is, correctional facilites are not working
Ron, we're not talking traffic tickets.....One can hardly compare the two...
People who cannot blend peacefully into society with respect for the law and lives of others, do not deserve to be any other place then where they can be contained and kept safely away from guns & society. These people are mentally incompetent & unable to perform normally in society.
Freedom comes as a priviledge...a right, with respect for others, respect for the lives of others, not to mention, realizing there are grave consequences or should be, for our actions against society.
We've been calling our prisons rehabilitation facilites for years now and allowing convicted criminals, felons, out on good behavior, or because simply put, we do not have enough prisions or room in prisions. Why, b/c we think these criminals should have rights...should have TV's, tiled floors, work out rooms, be able to take classes, have the right to obtain a college degree...on our tax dollars.
I'm sorry, but I can no longer feel pity for these people? I used to, but when you take a look at the families of all the victims of these criminals, I've come to a point in my life and it needs to be said...
(it's not working this way)....we've tried to make bigger & better gun laws, we've gone soft with sympathy for prisioners and set aside the safty of ssociety.
And the poor police are going crazy, trying to keep law and order and putting their lives on the line to keep us safe and our children out of harms way.
What are we telling them when we put another criminal out on the street that they worked so hard to capture and put away?
How many police officers have to be murdered until we stop and listen to them. Can you imagine the frustration of these guys?
They are out on the streets, trying to catch these criminals, and when they finally get them, a lenient judge or jury slaps them on the wrist, saying bad boy, and puts them back on the street again...and once on the street again, your now placing the arresting officer in jeprody of a revenge killing. A police officer who is a human being, with a family...trying to do a job for you and me????
Shame on us, for not thinking of these things...shame on us, for putting these guys back on the streets, shame on our judicial system and attorneys for setting them free...cuz the way I see it, we are all responsible for the next murder that occurs out there...and maybe, if we'd look at it that way, we wouldn't look for quick fixes, but remody the problem by going stright to the root of it.
How many children need to be raped or stolen, or worse, until we realize, criminals need to be incarcerated?
I suppose what I'm asking everyone to do, is to think about that...
the next time you hear someone has been murdered on the news...ask how many times this person was arrested...ask yourself, why the jury and judge left him go...and realize, that if that murderer had been encarcerated, maybe that 5 year old little girl would still be alive today or that woman that was raped might not have to live the rest of her life with HIV, and the shame of being assulted, afraid to go out of the house. The next time we hear of a repeated criminal who has violated the life of another, we should think about the victim and ask ourselves, what would we do, if it was our child, our wife, or husband, and how would we feel when we hear, after 5 years in prison, he was left go?
Talk to my cousin, a woman who was forced to the floor at gun point, one guy was holding a baseball bat, she said, that scared her even more then the gun, and to this day, she doesn't know why, all she can remember thinking was that he was going to beat her to death with the bat. They robbed the store she was manager of, got away with her purse, with her check book and her street address. The last one was left out of prison, last year...can you imagine, what her life is like? How she fears? And her situation, was minor compared to some very henous crimes. These guys had robbed other places as well.
Folks, thanks so much for reading and for taking the time to reply with your comments on this issue.
Ron, thanks so much for this opportunity, for challenging me, and for this forum to be able to express my thoughts on this subjet.
Thanks to all of you...whew, I need to go take a deep breath now sorry folks....