Ft. Lauderdale, Fl USA
C'mon, Mike. Are you really going to argue that Freddy and Jason represent good stories?
LOL! Certainly not in the literary sense but Hannibal's story won the Oscar, Freddy had at least 6 sequels, Jason had 13. Millions of people went to watch them. Trick or treaters donned their costumes. Your contention is that pure evil presents a boring character...a lot of people certainly weren't bored by them....and I even left out Vlad the Impaler and Al Capone!
I sincerely hope you're wrong, Mike, because the terrorist leaders aren't ever going to be gone.
A strange sentence from one accusing me of so quickly admitting defeat. I happen to believe, or at least hope, they will. One could have said the same of Hitler. Eliminate him and another would take his place....didn't happen. We certainly DO agree on the fact that it is the people who give them the power. How do you stop that? I'm sure, going back to Hitler, there were millions of Germans who did not agree with Hitler's Jew extermination tactics? Did they do anything? No. Look at Iraq. Although it may physically pain you to think so, many good things have been done in Iraq. A dictator who murdered millions of them at his whim, public executions, secret torture prisons, ethnic cleansing...has been eliminated. Tens of millions of dollars have gone into public works, infrastructure, and the like. They have their own government and are rebuilding their own military. They are not ungrateful. As one man said on TV who has lost a good friend in a suicide bomb attack, things are not good now but it's better than when Hussein was in power. Now the country is plagued with suicide bombers and terrorist tactics that are aimed at the IRAQI population. Are they, these people who would bring down Hercules, doing anything about it? No....and for the same reasons the Germans didn't - the terrorist have the firepower. Do you see even any peaceful demonstrations condemning the terrorist actions? No....not there or anywhere else. They are quiet out of fear and they will remain quiet out of fear for as long as the terrorist leaders are in power.
Toe to toe in their own arena? With what plan of action? You can't get to the part of the arena you need to be in.....the grandstands, where the people are. LR made a very logical comment earlier about winning over the population, especially the younger generation, who will be tomorrow's leaders. Sounds good.....how? Do you think they are going to let you? Do you think they will accept allowing the people to know that America is not a bad place and they want to be their friends? Syria going to allow you to go in and set up YMCA's and shelters for the homeless? Al-Jazeera going to print articles on the generosity of the American people, when they are not busy showing footage of every new Bin Laden tape that comes out? We have spent tens of millions in foreign aid the the Middle East. Several years ago,we sent tons of food to an African country in the midst of a famine. What happened? The food sat in trucks until it went bad based on the leaders claiming that America had sent them unsafe food to kill them.Colin Powell was boo'd at the UN for bringing it up. Now the terrorists and Muslim leaders are telling the people that Bush and the Pope are trying to initiate a new Crusade, to rid the world of Muslims. Even with your dim view of Bush, I don't think you believe that one....but people will. If you go into that arena, be prepared to be ushered to the main ring and with your hands and feet tied with a gag over your mouth. If you think you can win under those circumstances, be my guest. I agree that, if we could sit down with the people for a sincere exchange of views and in a promotion of understanding, good could be done. The problem is that Cerberus is guarding the door.
I'm sorry, Michael, but I fail to see how the hate you're promoting is vastly different than the hate they're promoting
I challenge you, Ron, to show anywhere I have promoted hatred. I HAVE stated that they are an evil that must be eliminated for any peaceful results to have a chance for success. I have never claimed to either hate them or try to convince others to do so. I kill bugs. I don't hate them when I do it. Hatred does not figure into it, either with the bugs or the terrorists. If I get the flu, I don't hate the flu. I simply take the necessary steps to counterract it. Your accusation is unfounded.
They hate us. You hate them. Mutually assured destruction. And why? Because both sides were convinced the other side hates them.
This morning the leader of Al Qada in Iraq stated, "People have two choices - convert to Islam or die." Gee, why would I read that and think they hate non-Muslims? You think YOU'RE astounded? I'm FLABBERGHASTED that people cannot see something wrong with THAT picture and not recognize it for what it is.
CAIRO, Egypt - Al-Qaida in Iraq warned
Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that its war against Christianity and the West will go on until Islam takes over the world
We need to try harder to understand them? I understand very well....
[This message has been edited by Balladeer (09-18-2006 06:03 PM).]