Hi Grinch and Good Morning
Hmmmm, ok, so what your saying is, if you don't have a red Ferrari, then your exempt from the club...
Ok, here's my thoughts on the subject and clearly I'm not on the fence with this issue.
I believe the process would be long and hard, but yes, certainly a criteria should be set in place…The already Immigration laws/rules and regulations should be reviewed, perhaps revised and stringently implemented, to ensure the safety of immigrants and US citizens, alike.
The initial visa review process should be enforced with an in depth name check, from our world’s security data bases, comprehensive information drawn from all countries and their law enforcement agencies.
If security concerns are raised, then the process should be delayed until that person can be cleared by additional checks, interviews and information, not only gathered but stored in the world data base.
Registration should be mandatory and a must to live here regardless of intent to visit, work, go to school or become a citizen.
All Illegals would be finger printed and must, while in this country, adhere to all rules, regulations and laws or be deported, never to be able to obtain a visa or citizenship to America again. An illegal immigrant would not be able to purchase a gun until they are cleared and become a citizen...why, how would they know our gun laws if they cannot read? If caught, they would be deported, never again to apply for citizenship.
While here, they should have to report back to immigration profligately, regarding any change of personal information, and all this information shall be stringently monitored, including their where a bouts, which should always be known by our government agencies in control & constantly monotoring their activity.....again, if violated, they should be deported without passing go, without collecting $200.00. No one is exempt from the due process.
While here in America, they should be expected to attend English classes, along with driving classes and instructed on the proper I.D. they must and will maintain on their person while here.
Classes on our laws would be mandatory, along with the due process they must fulfill…
If any car owner issues them an automobile, without the proper I.D. and a temporary immigration driver’s license, then that person shall be fined heavily.
The immigrant will be expected to purchase and maintain proper insurance on their car. If an immigrant owns an automobile, and is caught without car insurance, they will be deported. (Adding here, according to my son, I cannot tell you the amount of immigrants who are driving illegally, without car insurance, they cannot read, therefore, cannot understand road signs.
An illegal immigrant will not operate an automobile, until they can pass a drivers test, including reading and understanding English.
In stead of having bi-lingual schools, there should be mandatory English classes for students, while in school.
While here, anyone who employs immigrants shall maintain basic health insurance for that person, pay into social security for that person, reporting to the immigration bureau that they are employing an illegal and taking said taxes and social security out of their checks.
Any employer who hires an illegal shall be monitored by the bureau, and if they are found to be hiring immigrants, illegally, they shall be fined heavily and according to their offenses by judged by jury. They will also be fined for paying illegals less then minimum wage.
Any employer of illegal immigrants must fill out forms for each illegal they hire, which would be monitored by the said agency (s).
Now, as far as my stands for any illegal immigrant that becomes a citizen of the U.S., (your Ferrari Club) once they are a citizen, they must adhere to all the laws.
If a law is broken, then they are dealt with like any other citizen, respected as such, as they are innocent until proven guilty through our judicial system.
Once they are a citizen of the U.S. they may of course maintain an American life style, but…while here as an illegal immigrant, they are not allowed to participate in any protest what-so-ever or vote, until they become a legal Citizen of the United States.
You stated this…
Without that mechanism the granting of citizenship would seem to be unfair, people would be denied citizenship when they clearly could be better citizens than some that already held that position.
I agree, but, in the same, laws are laws and if someone has a criminal background, they should not be allowed to enter the U.S. or become a citizen. I’m talking drug involvement, terrorist ties, murder, rape and/or a history of armed robbery. We have enough of our own criminals running around free in this country.
You stated…..”If you have to be a Ferrari owner, to be in the Ferrari Owners Club isn’t it reasonable to withdraw membership to an existing member who sells his Ferrari?”
Understand fully the comparison you’re making…but as long as we have citizens in the United States who are walking free…how can you deport anyone?
Then I say all criminals should be treated the same…kept under stringent surveillance and incarcerated for whatever time our judicial system dictates by jury.
That said, if an immigrant knows that he/she might be deported if they broke a law after they become a U.S. citizen, such as terrorist ties, drug running, rape, murder, or armed robbery, perhaps the fear of deportation, might just keep them in check, but, I maintain, if that be the case, then we must also crack down on our already existing criminals in the U.S. who are citizens, but a menace to society, but that would be another thread, wouldn’t it.
Actually, I believe if our immigration laws and regulations would be stringently put into place, and executed it might also encourage & strengthen America to be more stringent with our own criminals…our laws really do need to be addressed, yanno, adding, no one would be exempt from, regardless of race, creed, religion, title…period.
I believe as in anything else, if there are rules to follow, it illeviates chaos and corruption. sometimes rules may not always seem fair, but they are there for a reason and should be respected by all.
Allow me to remind you, if I may, and this is not directed at you Grinch...but us all...when we visit someone else's home, we are expected to respect their rules...and that goes for country, state, family, neighbors, etc. (Respect is a word, that should be remembered at all times).
Thank you Grinch for asking...