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Christopher
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25 posted 03-27-2006 11:04 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

ah, but I still disagree... case by case is all fine and good - but once you open the box, you can't put the stuff back in; leave it open and people will employ it, will misuse it.

another thought - we're guys discussing this last bit here... I wonder what some moms would think of the law allowing their son's teachers to have sex with them.
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26 posted 03-27-2006 11:23 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

There's no law allowing that Chris.

She's lost her job.  Her reputation.  Her freedom.

She didn't get a speeding ticket out of this or a slap on the wrist.  And besides... God has a plan for her.

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27 posted 03-31-2006 05:14 AM       View Profile for A Romantic Heart   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for A Romantic Heart

  I AM a mother of a fourteen year old boy, who I have taught to be well-mannered and to respect women. He has never been a problem, no drugs, or dinking, not even curseing, we have a great relationship.He is an A student, very handsome with model qualities, features etc. He is tall 6'0 for his age and mature for his age, but holds that innocence of heart. I have raised him and taught him Christian morals and values. He loves girls, but respects them for what they are inside than out.!

If a teacher were to approach him in that manner, he would immediately call me from school,upset feeling sick to his stomache, telling me to contact authorities and report her so it would protect his friends or anyone else from her.
(I have discussed with both of my sons what bad touching etc. is and that if they tell them they would kill me if they told, that mom is bigger than them and she will contact the police, they know the perverts use this line and they know it is a lie and that God is more powerful)

  Knowing me, come hell or high water, I will fight and protect my kids till the death of me. I would probably go down there and knock her head off, since she only has half a brain to try to do something like that anyway, I would be doing her a favor.
I know fighting doesn't resolve anything (yeah thats why we go to war, right?)but I sure would feel alot better getting my frustration out.

I disagree with her sentencing,  she should get exactly what a man would get if it were reversed. I think even more so because she is a woman, and the fact she could have kids and do the same to them, or raise a daughter to be just like her.

Other countries castrate sex offenders,(but they would find other ways with their sick minds to do it, find a stick or some object) they cannot be rehabiliated, they themselves have proved this over and over through their actions after release or some through interviews themselves stating if they got out they would do it again. Their minds are gone, they themselves say that once they do it and cross the line, that there is no going back. It becomes like an addiction, that is out of control and cannot be stopped.You have to be nromal to live and function in normal society...their minds are not normal...brain transplant? not going to happen? next solution?

It makes me very mad when I hear or read news stories about another child offender or pervert has received parole on GOOD BEHAVIOR....give me a break!!! it is just like little kids, oh yeah lock me up for awhile, take away my goodies, I will be good as long as I know there is a way for me to get out again, I WILL DO ANYTHING, ACT THE WAY YOU WANT TO ACT just long enough to fool you and get back out and do it again!(A waste of police work, throwing it back in their face, I would loose it if I were a police officer!) Waste of money, to pay for doctors and programs etc. I say take the money and pay our police officers more than what they get paid. Could you imagine almost loosing your life over some idiot, only to find out that he gets out on "GOOD BEHAVIOR" sorry but who  ..came up with that anyway?

You know what Einsteins definition of idiot is...doing something over and over again producing the same results...giving no solution, but the same result again and again. Kind of like digging a hole and at the same time someone else is putting the dirt back in the hole as you shovel. (Waste of time, engery and space, not to mention taxpayers dollars).

We live in a coutry full of idiots....the system doesn't work. Come on people, these are our children we are talking about here, saving and protecting their childhood, their innocence, their sanity. (Who will be one day adults, if the child killers don't get to them first)Adults running our society, I believe this is what we are seeing now...this why we have the female teachers doing this, it is all coming full circle. Her mind about sex was perverted from someone in her past, her way of looking at sex in her mind has from the start been wrong to begin with. Now we as a country are reaping what we have sewn, we are seeing these kids, who are now adults in society teaching etc.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?

It is not the welfare system, not the immagration system, the school systems, the medicare systems, the prisons that need to be overhauled, it is AMERICA itself...all of it needs to change and update policys and laws,morals..etc. after all were in the year 2006. The world has changed and with that change of new crimes, new technology, there needs to be a new America.

I am going to homeshcool my youngest child he is 11. The world has changed and it has not improved morally, it is worse. I just read three stories in ONE night on the net, all were todays news, "Teacher caught buying porn for students", Teacher caught with drugs" Teacher arrested for punching and hitting students"....True stories today, all three!

When kids come to school and bring guns, come on AMerica! that is and should have been our wake-up call as a country. Something isn't right with the whole system....there are signs and signals warnings, are we listening???? Not!

The people of America need to stand up with the power they have and change things for the better. We have been asleep at the wheel, worrying about money and how to get it being hypnotised by more money, bigger homes, more more more, the media has this influnce...brainwashing us with commericals movies, "oh we have to have this or that to be like this or that" while both parents are working lured into this hynotised state, who comes in and steals our children? who is watching our children?
everything materially can be fast paced and convienent, food etc. but not kids, kids need time, love and care, and that my friend, you cannot microwave, send by email, or atm, or fast food. Tossed aside, like a piece of furniture or trophy.

Oh I want to have kids because so and so has kids...SORRY WRONG REASON....kids are not like getting a new boat and showing it off when you like to, to other people...they are human beings, with thoughts, emotions, needs, wants, dreams,favorites, likes and dislikes...get to know your kids...show them you love them. Know them as a person as you would a friend, but still be a parent, the one in control. How many know thier kids favorite color? food? movie? what they think about?

I have read true stories and I have seen documentaries about adults who were molested when they were kids, the problems they have now, the trust issues, etc.
To some this cancer spreads through their minds and they do it to others, even their own kids and so on and so on...STOP!!!! it needs to stop. How do you stop it? nip it in the bud!


I believe that once you kill(or rape, molest, etc) another person and take their life, their rights ,that you, as a prisoner should not have any rights at all. Most commit the crimes so they can go back to prison, after all it is better than living on the streets, your fed a nice warm meal, clean clothes, warm place to sleep etc. Some people just can't cope with society and take care of themselves. They want someone else to do it for them. (prisoners are too pampered) So what is one or two are reformed and 100 more are not....still not a good ratio...and who says reformed? they haven't been in society to see? how long? they have just been in the prison world. A world that is not the same as the real world.(where kids are roaming, live prey to catch and destroy) yes Jesus believes in forgivness but their has to be TRUE REPENTANCE and that is turning away from your sins and NEVER DOING IT AGAIN, learning your lesson the first time.If you truely love God and respect his laws, thou shalt not kill etc. There shouldn't be a NEXT time. God also tells us(if they have a retrobate mind, to turn them over to their flesh so that their souls might be saved.

Why not teach and send prisoners to war to fight in Iraq, quit killing our good men and women!

I think they should go back to the ways of the Paul Newman movie "Yes, boss, whatever you say boss, I can't think of the name of it, but it is where he ate those boiled eggs in prison winning the contest."Cool Hand Luke"

Everything is too FREE in America. It is out of control.I used to be a very happy positive person, but after having children, seeing the world differently, working in society, being on a secluded island is not looking so bad.

Final note, if factually most crimes are created by men, they should have to feel what it is like to create life, bring life into the world, feeling the pain it takes to get that life here,The worry, the concern the responsibility, then they would be less likely to be so easy to take it as they do.

  Women should raise their sons just as they would girls, meaning, love, hugs, lots of attention, encouragement, self-esteem.
It is wrong to think that because kids reach a certain age(or that they are boys it is going to make them a sissy,that is stupid!) that they no longer need love, or hugs, or your attention, WRONG! they need it more, I still hug and kiss my 14 year old on the cheek and I tell him I love him every chance I get. Sure he may go "Oh mom" but he loves it, he comes and tells me goodnight and that he loves me.(He will love and respect his wife, his daughter, other women in society because I was his first role model of a woman.Statistically it is proven that men who have a good relationship with their mom, have longer lasting marriages.

As a parent it is so hard to raise children with just the basics, from conception, having a healthy child, a smart child, well behaved, mannered, and to invest time, money , love, emotions, teaching them all through those years, and to have some idiot just come along and steal my property, take what is not theirs, for my sons to go to war and get killed with just ONE bullet...

Maybe "The Village" is not such a bad idea go off to some remote place and raise your children in your own communtiy and society, one that you can control and protect with borders.

I say ship them (child molestors, prisoners, etc.) to an island(without resources) and let them kill eachother,  think of others who might be thinking of killing etc. watching what could happen to them if they were to do unlawful acts? maybe they would think twice?

The murderers would kill all the sex offenders,and then turn on each other fighting to get a way off, feeding on each other, now that would make a great reality show and maybe a better AMerica.( just a little off the wall humor)
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28 posted 04-01-2006 08:05 PM       View Profile for Local Rebel   Email Local Rebel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Local Rebel

quote:

We live in a coutry full of idiots....the system doesn't work.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?

It is not the welfare system, not the immagration system, the school systems, the medicare systems, the prisons that need to be overhauled, it is AMERICA itself...all of it needs to change and update policys and laws,morals..etc. after all were in the year 2006. The world has changed and with that change of new crimes, new technology, there needs to be a new America.



So much for government of the people, by the people, and for the people.  So, regime change in Washington?  Is that what you're suggesting?  To be replaced by what?  The United States of Technology?  How would this new government be different?  Since the people are idiots (most people think the country is only half full of idiots -- the Republican idiots happen to be in charge at the moment - are you wanting the Democrat idiots to take over?) who would make the rules?

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The people of America need to stand up with the power they have and change things for the better.



I thought we were idiots.

But I'm completely in favor of people exercising their voting franchise.  And speech and press and religion.

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I disagree with her sentencing, she should get exactly what a man would get if it were reversed. I think even more so because she is a woman, and the fact she could have kids and do the same to them, or raise a daughter to be just like her.



Which is it?  The same?  More of (the same)?  Or... more severe?

You object, ostensibly, to a double standard in sentencing -- but, it's actually not the sentencing that is a double standard.  The standard for crime and punishment in America, since the time of the founding fathers -- has been that punishment should fit the crime -- and it shall not be cruel or unusual.

When a person's home is robbed, vehicle stolen, if he's beaten, or murdered, or if a woman is raped -- people are not going to approach that victim on the street and say,

"Dude!  Score!"

The double standard is not a legal double standard but a moral construct -- and dare I say?  A biological one.

There is no consensus from culture to culture on what the age of consent is -- if this had happened in Albania, Austria, Bulgaria, Canada, Chile, China, Colombia, Ecuador, Estonia, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Montenegro, Paraguay, Peru, Portugal, Serbia, Guyana, Japan, South Korea, Spain, Swaziland, Mexico, or the Philippines -- it would have merely been in bad taste for a teacher to be having sex with a student.

Our standard for punishment is the proportional amount of harm done to the victim.  Period

I'm not sure what new technology enabled this particular crime -- unless we consider the SUV.  I don't think they were texting each other on a blackberry -- although a blackboard may have come into play at some point.

You point to events in the news, as many do, and say -- society is coming to an end.  But, the news isn't about dog bites man -- it's about man bites dog.  The reason stories are in the news is because they are interesting to people who will consume them -- and they are interesting because most people are just hugging their sons and daughters, sending them to school, and going off to work to earn a living so they can come home and relax to another evening of 7 thousand cable channels, on demand, the Internet,  whatever, have a frozen dinner warmed up in the microwave and fall asleep on the couch again.  

 
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