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Putting the pressure on their pockets usually does. It's good to see it work even if that's what it takes.

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Thank you for this update.
Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year
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Here's an example of the problem I have with those arguing there are those trying to despiritualize the Christmas tradition (and I do agree Christmas should be preserved in its true meaning and also would hurt me to see its true spirituality dissolve) who also inject rhetoric into that pure debate that the holiday season is only meant for Christians, that this is a Christian nation, inject politics into it, etc.


"Well, what I'm tellin' you is I think you're takin' it too seriously. You have a predominantly Christian nation. You have a federal holiday based on the philosopher Jesus. And you don't wanna hear about it? Come on, if you are really offended, you gotta go to Israel then."

Bill O'Reilly, speaking to Jewish caller
December 7th, 2004


"You know it's an amazing thing, this is a Christian country, it's founded by Christians, Christmas is one of our great celebrations. It's been a time of joy for our people for many years, and not only us, but now they're picking up Christmas in Japan, picking it up in China. It's something that has blessed the world. And if people don't like America and the traditions that made America great, let them go to Saudi Arabia, let them go to Pakistan. Yeah, they can go to the Sudan and find a wonderful Muslim holiday."

Pat Robertson
December 23, 2004


"Hollywood is controlled by secular Jews who hate Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular. It's not a secret, OK? Hollywood likes anal sex. They like to see the public square without nativity scenes."

William Donahue, The Catholic League
Scarborough Country, MSNBC
December 8th, 2004


"There is an active campaign to destroy Christianity altogether, along with all its paraphernalia, the most obvious of which is...Christmas, of course. And the campaign is organized, financed and run by...Jews, of course. We all know about the lawsuit to remove 'under God' from the Pledge of Allegiance. Filed by a Jew. Remember the lawsuit to remove the Ten Commandments from the courthouse foyer, then to remove the judge who put it there? Filed by Jews. Remember the lawsuit last year to force New York public schools to take down colored lights? Filed by Jews. Remember the huge Jewish uproar about Mel Gibson's movie "The Passion of the Christ"? That backfired badly for Abe Foxman and company, but was a piece of the overall strategy to deChristianize America. It's a Jewish strategy, of course. That's why the lawsuits are all brought by Jews."

Edgar Steele
December 16th, 2004
Vangard News Network


There's just many that are exploiting this deep concern and poisoning the well with hemlock when making their valid concerns clear; blasting other faiths, liberals, etc. and conjuring hasty generalizations and hyperbole rather than cooperatively bring these concerns to the public light.

Same thing with critiquing the ACLU. I too am critical of some of their decisions and believe in terms of having large trees in public squares and such, I believe they should just let them have the right to do as they please and celebrate Christmas and the holiday season unconditionally. But there are some groups like the Stop The ACLU Coalition who don't call for this freedom purely and inject their own agendas and politics into it, who claim America is simply a Christian nation and has no place for Muslims and spew anti-Muslim rhetoric and such, bashing those who teach their children to be Muslims and such, and that equally troubles me too.

Religious freedom goes both ways, and if you're going to ask for it in its purest form, you ought to respect that others are also entitled to those rights. There are those ruining this genuine debate that scream that Christians should have all the religious freedom they want but other faiths cannot and show no relational empathy for the faiths of others.  

I will always be proud to celebrate Christmas in every sense of the word, which it just exactly how it should be celebrated, but moreover the holiday season, and whether it is Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa or any pagan ritual, the holiday season is a time for every one of us to celebrate. I only hope those like O'Reilly wish San Francisco just as much Merry Christmas as the rest of America.

Noah Eaton

"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"

Mother Teresa
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