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0 posted 09-01-2005 02:22 PM       View Profile for LeeJ   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LeeJ

This morning I posted a rant, on Sunshine's Hurricane thread for Serenity/Karen...and it wasn't the place to post that rant..so, here I am.

Quit frankly, all I've been hearing the past 4 days from our government agencies is, we have a Plan in Progress...
Well...here goes

People are dying...now they have guns...we should have been in there directly after the hurricane ceased.  I don't want to hear, there's no way in...if we can drop army troups anywhere in the world, we can certainly drop Armed National Guardsmen, food, water, supplies, boats, etc.
I'm not buying any excuse for this...the crowds will grow more and more dangerous the longer they wait.  These are human beings...dying...and candidly, if I were there, and saw a child/adult die right next to me, I'd freak out to say the least.

I watched Fox News, The weather Channel, and CNN all last night, and all I heard from all our agencies, including the President, that we're putting a plan in place??????

They have a hugh medical emergency medical boat, which won't get there for 7 days...another boat filled with supplies, which won't arrive for another 3 to 4 days...just how long do they expect these people to survive in 90+ degree heat.

Now, this senerio also raises another question...if, this were a terrorist attack, would Homeland Security have been just as unprepared. Remember folks, it wasn't the government who came in and helped people during 9/11 which was isolated to one area in New York.  It was in fact, the Local firemen, police and doctors who came to the rescue????

This is a human error, and frankly someones' got to account for this?  Its not about other countries coming to our rescue, it's about us taking care of our own.  and if we can't do that...then we need to rethink here.  

I suppose what I'm asking you all who read...there is no excuse for this...they should have been ready to go in there directly after the hurrican left.
We've got army helicopters that are equipped to drop any and all necessary men and supplies and we have yet to do so?????????

They should have been dropping water and supplies to those people from day one...

I don't want to hear, the place is surrounded by water?  These agencies should have been up, running and ready, including our government boats, medical supplies...for God's sake, people are dying where they are sitting, and every moment counts...

What were we waiting for and why?

Years ago, things like this didn't happen?  The National Guard was ready and willing.

I saw a couple from I think Alabama go in there and start helping load people into helicopters, and oh, by the way, up until this point, those present in those areas doing the rescuing were locals who had lost homes themselves.

Now, a police officer has been shot...???

Every second that passes, people will become more and more desperate...and I refuse to judge these people until I walk in their shoes, cuz I've never had to experience anything like this...but I will say this...I wouldn't steal a gun and shot at someone...so understand, I'm not siding with those criminals...but, if it came down to feeding my children, or my survival...I would steal food & shoes, and probably some silly putty .

there are going to be more hurricanes, are we ready?
And what if this was a terrorist attack?  It surely is a national disaster, and we were not ready?  Why?

Exactly what plans are in the making, and why has everyone in our government been running around scratching their heads afraid to make the call of,
Let get in there now???????

If this is an example of how American takes care of their own...folks we are in for trouble, and it's no darn wonder other countries won't stand behind us and offer support?  Actually, I know how those feel about, hey we're the first to run and offer other countries help...and we are...but what is happening here, is a major error and disgrace...and please, when you watch the news....don't you dare let them wiggle their way outa this.

Am I mis-informed here and off base, is it me?

I'd like to hear what others think?  

[This message has been edited by LeeJ (09-01-2005 03:15 PM).]

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only read part of this, am in big hurry
but want to say, yes
pipsters are putting relief efforts  together faster than any govt agency can
and it didn't surprise me
for this place operates like a family
squabbles and all sometimes LOL
but I agree
~WE KNEW it was coming...knew it would be big~
Banda Aceh had NO warning and it took so long to get help there...
didn't we learn anything from that, that a massive well-coordinated emergency response needs to happen within 24-48 hours???
ok, thank goodness real people don't wait until the government does something
that's all for now, just wanted you to know you aren't alone in your frustration
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You're absolutely right. It's funny how ALL THOSE REPORTERS and their buddies manage to get down there so quickly, and all they do is report.. do they help? no.. If the NBC man can get down there in 12 hours, why can't our military?

It's shameful.

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Your not alone at all. I am completely frustrated by this. As a matter of fact, I was viewing the pics of this yesterday and they showed the president flying over and viewing the damage. What!? Why doesn't he lace up the hipboots and get down there and help out or really view it and hear it. Hear the horror of losing your famiy(ies), your belongings, your dignity, your self control and your mind. What does he not understand about 85 PERCENT of New Orleans gone. And the surrounding states as well. He cut his vacation short by 2 days.......who cares. Why wasn't he home when they announced how bad it was BEFORE it hit?

Gas prices have gone up so so much here in California**still climbing**. Did anyone ever think about what would be the back up plan if something should happen like this. NO I don't understand politics so maybe I need to before I speak. Sorry folks just ranting here. Please don't disect if I am not understanding. I wish I could be the jolly green giant and take everyone of them and place them in a warm safe place. Of couse dodging and trying ***clearing throat** not to step on the looters.

**looter who are taking unnecessary things***

Big hugs LeeJ.  

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Frankly, I'm still most overwhelmed right now by the aftermath as I imagine just about everyone is, and believe we ought to remain patient in the time being and wait after things settle further and progress is made before we reach the analytical/political stage of Katrina.

As someone who has, for instance, previously argued the seriousness of global warming's impact on the environment and weather patterns and more effective warning systems being implemented, I agree we can do better.

All the same, I believed it inevitable, especially after seeing those four major hurricanes last year, that eventually we would be facing these hurricanes that wreck upwards of $500 billion in total property damage.

Again, though we indeed could be doing better than this, I also understand the tsunami was a rather recent tragedy, and indeed on terms of most property damage and levee destruction, had we taken the worst case scenarios more seriously, sadly, we still couldn't have prevented this monster storm from happening.

I just don't know what their "plan" is right now, but I want most of all right now is to try and be supportive, and comfort the victims and families of this tragedy, and perhaps as we're busy doing just that and fueling our own charities and sympathies towards the citizens of Louisiana, Alabama, Mississippi, Florida, Texas and all their families afected by this hurricane, they'll offer a great relief program or better yet, a long-term agenda to better prepare our shores for relatives of Katrina.

*****

My mom was saying last night she also doesn't like it when the president responds to a hurricane or natural disaster and attempts to "wallpaper his face all over it". I'm no real fan of that either, but I also have seen how throughout history, it seems pretty "obligatory" for the president to go out and say or do something, anything less would strike everyone as seeing the person as unsympathetic. You've got to be there, and secondly, you need to appear genuine, not be conceited and rather reveal the real heroes out there who are hospitalizing the children, rushing to repair the levees, etc. I believe that can be done without making it look like a photo-op.

Finally, I agree about the reporters. I mean, we've all watched so much news that we just can't ever expect a newscaster to cry or express their feelings live before the camera, but it bothers me very much that they speak robotically, with the same tone like they did during the election season. I don't know what else to say, I guess after all I've seen of news, reporters can feel so unnatural sometimes.

I can understand the anger in many hearts right now, and being one who is upset about so many or failed to listen of the other things the government has done, I'm living proof. But I believe just for a while longer, we must remain patient, and then afterward, if the government still doesn't respond the way many desire, we need to discipline that anger, be loud yet polite, and address these concerns.

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Do you know how hard it is to gather a National Guard troup together? Do you know how hard it is to devise a plan for martial law? Do you know how hard it is to drive huge trucks hundreds of miles to a devastated area?

I was stationed at the Emergency Operations Center after the last year's hurricane. We had National Guard Captains in the 'bunker' with us. The MINUTE it was safe for them to come in they did...it took three days.

Cut it some slack! Quit bitching about how everyone isn't doing EVERYTHING they can. They are!

I'm so mad I could spit! Stop blaming! Stop slamming people! Quit complaining! Take a deep breath and find a way to help out because this kind of rhetoric won't help!

I truly don't mean to upset or offend anyone and this is NOT a personal attack on anyone here. I'm so tired of people whining because someone didn't move fast enough...tell that to the pilot of the military helicopter who was trying to evacuate SICK people from the Superdome only to come under fire from a sniper!! Tell that to the driver of a truck with supplies that was surrounded by a gang carrying guns...tell that to the manager of the nursing home who was trying to evacuate the elderly in his care only to find his bus was hijacked!!

Sorry....I need a break.
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...the plans should have already been in place, now isn't the time to be formulating. FEMA and other agencies have to stand ready to respond immediately. This shows how unprepared we really are for a national disaster. Suppose this scenario...or similar one, should happen in two or three parts of the country at once?
Noah, I don't think we have to sit tight and be polite. We should shout in outrage at the delays. And all I saw from the Pres? another idiot photo op. Maybe I was on the wrong news channel?
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Did you read how much the President has designated for relief efforts?
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NOPE, and maybe that's part of the problem.
I've been temporarily 'swallowed' by a recent trauma/drama. I don't have cable TV, and we have no local media except a Mon-Fri paper that doesn't cover much of anything so I rely mostly on internet news.
It seems as if the government is actively evacuating thosuands to the Astrodome, hopefully that's a good temp shelter solution.  Perhaps, all we can expect is already being done, but it sure hurts to hear how days afterward...so many people are still stranded.
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As much as I hate to pass up an opportunity to criticize the Pres, there are a couple of points that need to be made.

Ordinarily relief crews are positioned fairly close to where a hurricane is supposed to hit... but, the sheer size of Katrina made it very difficult to do.  The National Guard units that responded are under the direction of the Governors of their respective states, not FEMA or the President -- they were staged, along with power restoration crews and other relief workers as close as it was thought possible and still be out of the range of Katrina.  

Hurricanes don't behave completely predictably... and neither did Katrina -- many of the residents of New Orleans went East -- and wound up directly in the path in the Gulfport area -- where no one expected the full force of the storm to hit.

The laws of physics also come into play -- ships only move so fast -- trucks only move so fast, and that's when there are clear roads.. there are entire bridges and causeways that are gone that feed traffic into the effected areas.  Helicopters can only carry so much freight/cargo... there are no places to land larger cargo jets.

The first responders in some areas are just as gone as the areas are -- and the Police and Fire Dept's in New Orleans are hampered by the same water and damage as the other victims of the storm.

Sure, we can move troops anywhere in the world -- but, generally speaking -- we don't launch attacks in rain storms let alone hurricanes.

There are some frustrating elements to this I know -- and if you want to focus that frustration into areas where it belongs here are a couple of things;

A.)  The Bush administration and Republican Congress have slashed funding over their tenure that would have improved the levy system for New Orleans.

B.) The corruption in the police department and city government in New Orleans and the State of Lousianna has fostered an environment that has been so lacidazical towards crime that wide-scale crime was rampant without civilization being wiped away -- looting is no big shock.

C.) Because it was no big shock the main areas that weren't under water should have been secured with police and guard units instead of sending them around the city willy nilly saving lives.
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10 posted 09-01-2005 06:21 PM       View Profile for LoveBug   Email LoveBug   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LoveBug

"I'm so mad I could spit! Stop blaming! Stop slamming people! Quit complaining! Take a deep breath and find a way to help out because this kind of rhetoric won't help!"

Well yeah, when I see footage of 9 month preganant women having contractions on the street, who haven't eaten for four days, i AM GOING TO GET PISSED, OK? I WILL bitch, ok?

So yeah, you yelling at me isn't going to help either.

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LoveBug I am not yelling at you..I am venting...I didn't want anyone to think I was mad at them or demeaning their opinion.

I know all about those poor people who are in desperate need. But how can anyone help them if there are snipers shooting at them.

I do think the Governor was totally unprepared for this massive devastation. I think he forgot there were people sheltered in the convention center. But I also think some of those people could have eleviated their situation...there are convenience stores, restaurants, hotels in the area (I've been there) so they could 'loot' food and water from there. I know they broke into the convention center food service area and got what they could there.

I know there are thousands of sick, dying, helpless people. All I was saying is that we should stop trying to point fingers of blame and help them out!

Now is the time to unite not divide.
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What kinds of things are being looted? To me, if its food water and emergency supplies...well, I don't have any problem with people taking what they need for survival. If they are taking TV's, DVD's, new vacuum cleaners? that's a whole other issue to me.  My reception is so poor here that I cannot see clearly what's on the TV screen, and the audio is scratchy.
What a monstrous mess.
I am wondering what will become of all these people, all the ones who are already living on shoestring budgets. What's going to happen? Will these people get short term and long term help from Texas? Louisiana? Mississippi?  the Feds??? Where will they find housing and jobs? will they be driven back to New Orleans or left stranded in texas three months from now? Guess we have time for that planning step.
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I think it's fine to take food and water and medicine but what are people going to do with TVs, Computers, Gameboys????

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my point exactly, Sharon
food and water ok, emergency supplies yes
stealing luxury stuff? lockem up
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The answer to that last question is difficult KC... there are victims of hurricanes from two years ago that FEMA has left behind still living in temporary housing (trailers).

I know that one mobile home manufacturer in Indiana has received an order from the DHS already to build temporary housing for the refugees and is ramping up production and hiring 200 people this week.

It's too difficult to even absorb the full impact of what's going to happen to the rest of the economy let alone to those who took the frontal attack of the storm.

I talked to people today, and I'm still mad, who said they weren't donating any money or food or clothing to send down to help 'those looters'... and unfortunately there is that mindset in some people in this country and the world.

But, the rest of us just have to keep plugging away regardless.  Damn the torpedoes, hell or high water.
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"LoveBug I am not yelling at you..I am venting...I didn't want anyone to think I was mad at them or demeaning their opinion."

As we are venting as well. One can only be frustrated when they cannot help or do enough to help. If we were all Superman/woman we would have it taken care of. I don't think its blaming anyone, I think its "Why" aren't we more prepared when something like this happens. As LeeJ said.....she/we is/are not in thier shoes. Whether it be the military, president,  or the victims of Katrina. NOTHING is simple and easy to do in a situation like this.

Yeah and I think if we could all snap our finger ans make it go away........ID BE SNAPPING FIRST....ACTUALLY KAREN WOULD BE SNAPPING FIRST.
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In reality guys -- New Orleans is a swamp with a lot of really bad chemicals in the water -- very few of those luxury items are going to be any good anyway -- the tvs, vcrs, dvd players -- they're going to be ruined -- the looters are merely wasting their energy -- as far as the food goes - the police said they weren't stopping anyone from getting food or water.
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I have to be one ignorant person.  I could not in my wildest imagination see how someone could blame the largest natural disaster to hit the United States on President Bush either by his creating global warming, not funding the EPA or not putting on his hip waders.

I guess if it is in a blog somewhere it must be true.

We just had a category 4 hurricane hit a major metropolitan area which sits in an old swamp below sea level which for over fifty years everyone has known would be devasted if hit by a hurricane.  It was.

Politicians did not create the hurricane nor its devestation.  Nature did.  Countless innocent people sometimes suffer terrible fates for no reason other than we do not control nature, it pretty much decides to do what it wants when it wants.  We humans are not near as powerful as we think we are and the forces of nature are.

Anyone who honestly believes the same devastation and utter horror would not have existed whoever the president was and is operates on a totally different wavelength than I.  

When unexplainable tragedies happen, we need to blame either the victim (and if the victim is not to blame) or someone else.  That way, we do not have to face the fact that terrible things happen for no reason other than terrible things do happen without human rhyme or reason.

What a sad thread to have going when so many people are suffering and so many people are doing everything in their power to help their fellow human beings.

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"What a sad thread to have going when so many people are suffering and so many people are doing everything in their power to help their fellow human beings."

Its merely a rant of frustration. Again, I don't think its a matter of blaming anyone. Its like if we had a huge earthquake her in California. Are we ready for it......of course not. When is the "big" one going to hit?? Who knows. I think what everyone is feeling here is quite normal. This is a prime example of what LR was saying. You get so comsumed in the horror of it all that it starts to weigh on you and your emotions. AND Again, we are not in these people shoes to know how fast things can and cannot get done. Please for once, can people just vent how they feel without it being disected??
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ďMore than one million people were evacuated from New Orleans and the surrounding areas before the hurricane struck, but Mayor Ray Nagin has estimated that up to 100,000 people decided to stay in the city. ď

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4206622.stm


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Tim, I really don't believe that most are seriously blaming Bush for Hurricane Katrina. I believe many are just quite frustrated that it took four days for him and others to rise from their seats and respond to the tragedy. They're blaming Bush not for the hurricane hitting itself, but for the delayed response to the tragedy, striking many of the victims and others as being unsympathetic to the victims and failing to feel the real disaster it is right now, like when you look around New Orleans right now, it doesn't feel like America, it feels very familiar to Bangladesh or Haiti.

I believe the Administration could have indeed responded sooner than they have and they could and should be doing more. I do also question his immediate response to the tragedy, where he struck me as ranking oil over the humanitarian effort. But I'm also understanding that it just isn't that easy right now to simply get around. Sharon was right earlier in the thread that it takes a lot of work and preparation to transport a National Guard unit from Point A to Point B, and I indeed do not fault the National Guard at all for the efforts they're making out there.

All I'm hoping is that the government understands this is not your ordinary natural disaster, the area devastated by Katrina is seriously a war zone right now. People are dying out there, which is not acceptable. There was a woman in her wheelchair who died right by the convention center, with another body draped in white cloth lying next to her on the cold ground. People are stuck, starving and ailing away within the Astrodome, with many denying or failing to hear the many cries for help from within the facility.

I am doing the best I can to remain patient and understanding of the far-reachings of the conflict, but I very much understand the frustration. It too was most unsettling to hear from the House Speaker that it wouldn't make any sense to rebiuld the city because it would just get flooded again. And indeed he may be partially right that the city won't be any stranger to flooding, but to say that during a great time of chaos and mourning is totally non-compassionate. Indeed, looking at it from other terms, $25 billion is equivalent to three months of fighting in Iraq, so I don't see why not it can be offered to the people of New Orleans.

This disaster, this chaos, this anarchy rises well above politics. It doesn't matter if you're a Republican or Democrat. Many, if not most out there expect you, regardless of your party, to show that something is being done, that you're making an effort. And when many see that Bush was playing a guitar on Tuesday in California with Mark Wills after making his speech to commemorate the 60th anniversary of Japan surrendering in WWII, then returned to his ranch, THEN returned to Washington on Wednesday morning, it could indeed send a message to the victims that there doesn't seem to be anyone in charge here.

Despite my disappointments with the response on the government's part, I am most blessed and inspired by the vast support that both Americans and nations worldwide are offering the victims. The relief efforts really touch my heart. For instance, my parents work for Allstate and aside from their relief program they've put together, a seperate one million dollar donation was contributed from the Allstate president to the relief effort! That really was wonderful to hear!

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Shouting in the alley is always ok... and we're going to see an increasing tendency to politicize this catastrophe.  Zeus knows the Bush administration politicized 9/11 every chance it got...

The time for a post mort is after the action though.  Right now it's time for course correction and cooperation.

At the proper time there are many questions we're going to have to ask and answer about some of the fundamentally wrong decisions that are interlaced in the numerous different systems both private and public that have resulted in the aftermath of Katrina.
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What was said VS what is true
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html

It makes me sick.. This FEMA guy said yesterday  (quoted on CNN) that the rescue/recovery efforts were going well, much better than when the tsunami happened.

WOW, we're better than a third world country! Should we be patting ourselves on the back for that? I don't think thats good enough..

And people who glorify this process make me even sicker..

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I know I live up here in Canada and should stay out of this but I have an opinion as well, so hold the stones please Ö

I have been glued to a television since before the hurricane hit.  On the phone with friends pleading for them to leave, etc. and that's the absolute truth, as I have so many American friends.  One reason for that is I met a lot of them through this site. The other and most important is, I have always loved the loyalty you have for your country, flag, military, and your leadership, and right now itís important to keep setting that example to us outsiders.
The first thing I look for crossing the border is that flag of yours, and I smile!

I know there are always going to be people that complain about what isn't being done, or how its done, that just life, but in a major disaster like this one, it is better to talk about what is being done.  Itís better really to try to do something positive about what is not being done in your own small way to change it for the better if you can if you want to help at all.  The fact of the matter is that there is poverty everywhere, and with that comes the shoes they must walk in.  The people left behind (no matter what their color) didn't have the means, "wheels or money," to escape and it was strictly a social class issue there, nothing more that held them to home base. Were I in their shoes, I too would sit my butt down and wait to see who was coming and get me, what else could they do?  I realize the lowlife looters, that stayed behind on purpose had their own agenda too though.  The fact is this, these are entire states we are talking about, not townships, and the numbers are staggering.

I donít think they were ready for this period!  This is the first major disaster like this in American history, and were they ready, probably not, but I can't for a second think that the American people are not demanding all that can be done, and will get all that your government can give, that is the American way.  This is all they can do right now, and they are doing it!

I think what has to be said here or anywhere right now is words of the the positive work being done, these people have had a major change in their lives, entire townships are obliterated, and not only in New Orleans but the entire Gulf Coast as we all know.  It's easy to sit in a comfy chair watching t.v. or a computer and criticize, but like anything in life, if you want it changed, do something to change it!   Make a small difference.

Listen, I would love a chance to dig Bush, but this time, I would not to walk in his shoes for anything.  Am I disappointed things were not handled better, faster, quicker, sure - but in this situation, I do truly believe they are doing all that they possibly can do and were not expecting what they now face, nor were they ready for it.

I say if they save anyone, they are heroes in my book.

I don't want you to take this as a criticism against anyone, but I always think it is better to search out and send positive vibes and go on those, as you create a certain rush of calm not chaos that is catchy.

New Orleans especially is a landmark in this world, and the people that first built it had stamina, strength, conviction, integrity and honor.  I have faith in the American people and know this city will be re-built and better than ever, eventually.  It is my intention to go down there as a working type holiday as soon as there is clearance to do that, and there is something others might want to consider?

We know only a handful of people this is effecting but think of the thousands, that may be reading these threads, and let's send them all the positive energy we can.

Who said this?  If you are not part of the solution, then you are part of problem or something?

Sorry I saw this and got carried away, because we could all be doing so much good with spare time, dollars, etc. than critizing.  There will be time enough after all this to put the blame where it goes, and make those responsible for their part in a bad recovery wear the hat.

For now - God Bless America and all it stands for.
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