Saluting with misty eyes
What I was saying...is that this particular incident would never have happened had we not gone to Iraq...
Noah, my dear, sweet ,naive friend... I have read many of your thoughts, and replies on here, and have read a few e-mails that we have passed on various subjects, and- although I don't agree with 98% of it- I have allowed you those thoughts because they are yours ands your are entitled to them. This time, however, I cannot allow this statement to go unchecked.
Blaming President Bush for the attacks on Americans (which occured as a result of the Newsweek story) is akin to blaming President Clinton for Air Force Capt. Scott O'Grady being shot down. If we weren't there, it would never have happened, right?
A quick modern history lesson for you, my friend... Americans are being killed, NOT by the Iraqis, whose country we "invaded" and continue to "occupy"... rather by muslim extremists between the ages of 18 and 40 (for the most part). This is not the first time it has happened, either, Noah. Let me give you a few examples of American's interaction with muslin extremists in that age group over the last 35 years, and you tell me if you feel that the American President was to blame for the deaths:
1) In 1968, Senator Robert Kenedy was killed by a muslin extremist in that range... and that was on American soil.
2) In 1972, Israeli athletes were killed by muslim extremists between the ages of 18 and 40. Perhaps it was the Prime Minister of Israel's fault for sending Israeli citizens to a foreign country where the citizens of that country were glad they were there?
3)In 1979, the American Embassy in Iran was taken over by muslim extremists between the ages of 18 and 40 (actually, they were mostly college students).
4)During the 1980's numerous Americans in the Middle East (mainly Jordan) were kidnapped by islamic extremists.
5)In 1983, over 260 Brothers (American Marines) were killed by islamic extremists in Beruit while they were sleeping. as the result of a car bomb (historical footnote: shortly afterwards, they extremists blew up another building not too far away)
6) In 1985, a 70 year old American named Leon Klinghoffer was killed and thrown overboard while sitting in his wheelchair by islamic extremists as he vacationed on a cruise ship.
7)In 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was blown out of the sky over Lockerby Scotland by islamic extremists, killing a mes of people, including Americans.
8)In 1998, the American embassies in Tanzenia and Kenya were bombed by islamic extremists.
9) On September 11, 2001 over 3,000 people (Americans and other nationalities) were killed by islamic extremists.
10) The USS Cole, The FIRST Trade Center bombing, reporter Daniel Pearl, CIVILIANS driving water trucks to Iraqi citizens...
Noah, have you begun to see the picture? ALL of these (with the exception of Daniel Pearl and the civilians in Iraq) happened before the majority of Americans knew there was an Iraq, and before most who did know could spell it, or point to it on the map. In none of these cases that I have given you, could the American President (or the leader of the country that wasn't American) be blamed for the event happening. Islamic extremists, just as Arian Pride extremists, just as Black Pride (my apologies for the antiquated usage) extremists,just like Irish exteremists, do not care where you are, or that you are in their country... that makes it too personal, and these people couldn't care any less about personal vendettas than they do about Sadie Hawkins Day. For them it is about their view point, and what message they want to get across. If it wasn't the Americans in Iraq, it would be the Americans elsewhere in the world.
There are other points that you made that I have contention with, however, to contimue with this response, I would have to charge Ron with royalites for my latest novel.
I appreciate that you are able to voice your opinions with grace, and with respect for varying viewpoints, however I would ask that you not allow your personal views to be clouded so much that you ignore the facts.
I'm drowning, choking
Falling deeper into this
Black hole we call living