City of Roses
Just so you know, I would have responded to this thread earlier, but I'm not excited to join in here now just because I don't like at all the direction this thread has gone. It's just so ugly-sounding right now, so much bitterness.
What can I say? I'm a spring chicken to the dusty world of politics. In two years I have already formed strong opinions and understandings of Bush and the war in Iraq, and believe in what I believe very strongly because I have taken the time to get out there in the community and see myself dissent washed out and it's as though only the trigger of the gun is investigated in every major story, when the barrel is just as important of the anatomy of the story.
I'm not a fan of Bush and I wasn't a fan of Clinton either, simple as that. And as a liberal, I wouldn't be against penalization of those like Berger who truly didn't do their job or attempted to cover up or destroy part of the story.
But I've got to tell you, I'm utterly saddened with rhetoric being used here like "liberals must be from a whole other galaxy". What is that supposed to mean? We should be focusing on the issue itself rather than resorting to all this pundit/ talking heads cycle.
Then poor Terri Schiavo and Christopher Reeve gets planted into these discussion again, which they have NOTHING to do with this topic whatsoever.
Now, I, myself, can agree that I haven't fully developed an I-Thou personality in its fullest yet and I too resort to I-It talk in exposing Bush and such. Lord knows I'm still learning, and I'm still trying to. But what I will add is that I would NEVER suddenly pull up the name of Tom DeLay or John Bolton or whatever in a thread such as this in where they have no deep connection whatsoever and then morph that sort of discussion into a conservatives-must-be-from-Zeta Reculi crossfire.
And that's the last thing I'd wish for here, for I believe from the beginning of America's history so-called liberals and conservatives alike have built and influenced this nation both together and apart. The background in which I was raised within was truly a melting pot. I consider myself a strongly liberal independent, but I have always warmed up to the social conservative values of my grandparents as well. And together I'm pleased to say the ground of values I was raised on make up a great, colorful bouquet.
Anyway, I feel it essential to talk in these sorts of circles when this sort of crossfire happens and I really am hoping to see the discussion here turn back toward the issue itself respectedly.
I'm only faintly familiar with Sandy Berger so I would truly like a non-slanted history or understanding of this individual so I can make a future fair assessment.
I will say already that I believe any censorship, tearing or sweeping under the rug of any valuable documents is wrong and does injustice not just for those in power but for the whole community in general. And seeing that Berger pleaded guilty for those three documents, I believe justice must be made and Berger and others who may have been involved must be penalized.
"If we have no peace, it is because we have forgotten that we belong to each other"