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Huan Yi
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0 posted 01-29-2005 01:14 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi

ďAlmost two-thirds of Britons believe extended pub opening hours will make the country a worse place to liveÖĒ

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4200695.stm


In our local paper thereís a section that summarizes arrests,
giving names.  Most of the activity is for DUI.  The state has
a .08 percent blood alcohol content level standard to define legally DUI.
Iíve wondered when reading that section, if the police werenít able to
simply wait near a local pub at about midnight on a weekend
and net everyone coming out of its parking lot behind a steering
wheel.  How much beer, shots, etc. does someone have to put down to
be over the limit?  And if it isnít much, then isnít it some sort of
sport; people go into bars to drink, (thatís how bars make money;
I imagine you can say itís for other reasons, but if you donít
spend the cash, Iíd bet you wonít be welcomed back),
and afterwards itís see who gets caught?

Denise
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1 posted 01-29-2005 10:00 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Depends on their weight and metabolism, John. I think it is fair to say though that most folks who hang out at the bar for a couple hours, and having shots with those beers, are probably just about at the limit, especially since the limit keeps getting lowered every couple of years.

bbent
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2 posted 01-30-2005 03:29 AM       View Profile for bbent   Email bbent   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit bbent's Home Page   View IP for bbent

I got to agree with that 2/3rds that feel longer hours means more drunkeness,trouble and death.I've worked most my life as a bar musician and am absolutly sure that those drinking till the morning hours are far more intoxicated and much more likely to be involved in fights or endangering others by drunk driving.I most certainly agree the bars main purpose is to sell as much booze as it can in it's open hours.The ones here sell so called mints to hide the smell of the booze for it's best customers.Rarely have I seen anybody intoxicated refused service unless they were doing something that might cost the bar money.I have no problem with people drinking till their to drunk to walk if that's their choice but take there carkeys and call a cab or roll em up in a ball and let the wind blow them home.Last thing we need is a hyway full of drunks killing early morning commuters.The bars here are open till 5am when there's the business and believe me if i'm out walking at 5;30 I stay well away from oncoming traffic.

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Huan Yi
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3 posted 01-30-2005 12:22 PM       View Profile for Huan Yi   Email Huan Yi   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Huan Yi


I would just like to reconcile the conflict: the civil concern
with the real consequences of drunkenness on the public and
the acquiescence to its avenue by late hours for bars.
serenity blaze
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4 posted 01-30-2005 02:41 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Well now.

I have typed this ad nauseum, but I am here in New Orleans, and I have often thought of the conflict of it all, as the bars here DO sometimes close, but there is always another open somewhere. In my former neighborhood, there was one club where the band didn't even begin to play until three a.m.

And yep, as a result, Louisiana is in the top ten for alcohol related accidents, and insurance premiums are amongst the highest in the nation as well. (And rightfully so)

But I have to argue the fact that people go to bars to simply drink. I know a number of people who go to clubs to play pool, darts, and sing karoake, and not all of them drink.

(As I age, I know many who have quit drinking due to health related issues--the ones who survived the party years of their "roaring" twenties.)

Now we have casinos to contend with as well, as you can go there, and as long as you're gambling, they will keep on bringing trays of free drinks.


But I did have an idea for a taxi service, which would involve two drivers, one to drive two drivers--one to drive the intoxicant's vehicle, and the other to drive the inebriated person home.

I even thought of a name:

U-Auto-Know-Betta



I think the insurance complications might make that rather impractical, but I did recently talk to a lounge owner who was considering a bus service (mini-van).

In a town where you have "Drinkin' with Lincoln" nights, (pay five bucks and you can drink for five hours, anything you like) I believe that something ought to be done.

And yep, John, as I've have gotten older, many times I have wished ruefully to move someplace where the bars do close.

And now I have to run. There's a parade going on, and yep, there will be a slew of drinkers there, most of whom I assume drove there.

(And nod, I'm in the middle of a party as I type, and we no longer serve alcohol, but we do provide plenty of food.)

And as for parades? Shaking my head here, I went to one Friday night, and the first "throw" that I caught was a syringe filled with a "jello shot."

And yes, there IS a law against that, but nobody here seems to care.

I guess that's why they call New Orleans "the city that care forgot".

But I agree, bars and drunk driving present an incongruous situation, and I sure wish there was some middleground. Until then, beware of those who drive on it.
Susan Caldwell
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5 posted 01-30-2005 03:40 PM       View Profile for Susan Caldwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Susan Caldwell

god, I need to visit New Orleans...

"cast me gently into the morning, for the night has been unkind"
~Sarah McLachlan~

serenity blaze
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6 posted 01-30-2005 06:48 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

Susan?

You should.

You've got a place to stay.

hush
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7 posted 01-31-2005 09:07 AM       View Profile for hush   Email hush   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for hush

Wait a second.

Bars open till five AM?

"Dinkin with Lincoln???"

Man, Ohio sucks!

Sorry, I know it's besides the point. but I never drink and drive, if that helps? Although, on an amusing note, before I turned 21, we were stopped by border patrol after a night of clubbing in Windsor (where you can drink at 19) at which point I began loudly and drunkenly protesting that my rights were being violated and that I wanted to see the supervisor. Which is precisely what I probably didn't want to do. But for the record, a completely sober friend was driving.
Susan Caldwell
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8 posted 02-01-2005 06:02 PM       View Profile for Susan Caldwell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Susan Caldwell

Karen?

you will the first and only I call when I do go!

  Be better hire body guards, when we go out, to keep us out of trouble!!

"cast me gently into the morning, for the night has been unkind"
~Sarah McLachlan~

 
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