Member Rara Avis
the ass-end of space
If you're being genuine and I've jumped the gun, than I sincerely apologize. But no offense, you've apologized before and yet here we are at it again in this thread.
Consider the rest of the response an explanation of my position, which will hopefully ensure that that a misunderstanding/label won't occur again.
Oh, yes but I doubt that their opposition is based on assassinations, secret coups and arms deals.
again. merely examples. not all, some. and if not directly than to their after effects.
The oil for food and how the US killed the cash cow has also had an effect.
there's the finger pointing, should i call that anti-european sentiment? we've discussed this in other threads and i offered examples of US companies like halliburton, skirting around US sanctions and playing benifiting from the the oil for food program. if there's contempt for the european nations who exploited the deal why not for halliburton and those in charge..like oh, say dick cheney. and if you do agree with that, how do you then resolve the ethical dilema of an adminstration handing over no-bid contracts to companies like this, comapnies who supported and benifited from the enemy you're fighting?
As for Australia and other allies, nothing has happened to them..yet. But don't underestimate them or other allies, including canadians(shhhh we're in afghanistan and have some soldiers in iraq on exchange missions), as potential targets if it continues to escalate.
as for the cuban blockade, are you speaking of the embargo itself imposed in 1960 or the cuban missle crisis? both are linked of course. if i may, i'd like to offer a little background for any who might not know what the hell we're talking about now as well as offer my opinion.
the initial reason for the embargo, and what led to many US led coups in south america, was the socialist expropriation of land from foreign owners(mostly american) and back to its people. a noble ideal. but as in guatemala, the US rejected offers of compensation for the land. I think it was cost plus 5%. Not exactly sure.
After talks broke down Eisenhower proposed the embargo in 1960. Big mistake. Add to that the failed Bay Of Pigs attack and Kennedy's expansion of the embargo in 1963 and what was Castro to do? The embargo and restrictions led him to seek help elsewhere, and the USSR swept in. Now instead of having a socialist government to contend with, they adapted the soviet system and you now had a communist government instead. and right in your backyard.
As for the Cuban missle crisis? The Russians, recognizing an opportunity to get closer to US targets, shipped missles to Cuba. Legally they had the right to do so as the US had been placing missles across Europe and as close as Turkey. So who was at fault here? Russia was simply responding to what the US had done in Turkey, a desperate Cuba, due to the severe embargo, offered them the opportunity.
shrugs. that's the history and cause of the situation, that said, seeing as canada would have been right in line with those attacks as a close US ally. i thank Kennedy for getting them the hell away from here. but, im also critical for creating that situation. the embargo undermined their socialist plan and forced Cuba right into the hands of the USSR. A monster created by policy.
recap..no to embargo, but thanks for the getting rid of the nukes