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Huan Yi
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0 posted 2004-12-16 01:20 AM


I watched a program on a once popular figure.
In response to the relation of extramarital activities
that man had been in, a supporter remarked that
what someone did after 6:00 PM didn’t matter.

Does or should what a public figure does
after 6:00 PM, (ie in his/her  private life),
matter, ( I recall the JFK revelations
just now)?


http://partners.nytimes.com/books/first/k/kovach-warp.html

[This message has been edited by Huan Yi (12-16-2004 02:08 AM).]

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Skyfyre
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1 posted 2004-12-16 02:37 PM


Since you brought up JFK, let's pretend this "public figure" is a politician.

Does cheating on his wife make him worse at his job?  No.  However, it does make him a less respectable person, and more likely not to get reelected next term.

Even if it "doesn't matter" with regard to his job performance, it will matter to others regarding his character if the instances comes to light.  This is true of any profession, it just affects politicians more.

Christopher
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2 posted 2004-12-16 03:46 PM


It does matter, Linda - but I think the question was "should it?"

My 2 cent answer - yesno.

I think you're wrong in saying it doesn't affect their job - ie: how can you expect someone to be honest in their business dealings if they're not honest in their personal relationships? For a politician, this can be a very bad thing - what about an actor though? Could they perhaps better portray the part of a cheating spouse if they have personal experience at same?

Huan Yi
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3 posted 2004-12-16 07:27 PM


The point made in the above site article attached, (see example
regarding Martin Luther King), and which could be applied to JFK,
is that if today’s standards of what is subject to media exposure had
been in place in their time, they might have never
come to the power and influence as they had.  Given their
records of accomplishments, is not better then that their
private indiscretions had been kept out of public consciousness?
Would it not be just as appropriate now?


Alicat
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4 posted 2004-12-16 09:31 PM


With Kennedy came the rise of mass-media, especially with how photogenic the First Family was.  At the time, however, news outlets cared more about discretion than ratings.  Times changed with Nixon, when every little indiscretion was rooted out, cataloged, and pinned like butterflies to billboards for all the world to see.  And it's been that way ever since.

Add to that stew the bloggers.  You have those deeply interested in how things work, those grinding an axe, those desiring to re-write history, others with no other purpose than mischief, and some more wanting a bigger name in the hopes of being taken seriously.  In some cases, bloggers broke stories and spread them like gasoline fed wildfires long before the mainstream news organizations had even gotten their boots on.  And that's the new dynamic: journalism sans responsibility.

What was once kept private is now vaunted in public, with some doing the reporting without oversight or standards.

Brad
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5 posted 2004-12-17 06:16 PM


Nixon is an interesting example. I was just thinking that this shift to bedroom politics is easier on ratings than an actual political scandal.

I get the feeling that it matters only if you already hate the candidate. It's a minor indiscretion if you support him or her.

But what matters? What does matter?


Huan Yi
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6 posted 2004-12-17 07:59 PM



I suppose this brings up the question of what
Americans expect of a President or similar public
figure.  Is he expected to be a personal morals
as well as political leader, ( I remember it being
commented during the funeral of a French political
figure, ( I forget his name), that both his wife and
mistress stood side by side at the ceremony)?
Still Jesse Jackson suffered no permanent damage
from his affair, and my mother, (a life long Democrat),
explained Clinton by all the women being tramps.

Speaking of Clinton, how is Hilary’s  acceptance of
her husband’s indiscretions apt to impact on
her chances for the presidency, ( Ted Kennedy
was considered a viable candidate after  Chappaquiddick
and he seems to have had a few sexual romps of his own).

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/tedkennedychappaquiddick.htm


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