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Rowley
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Is it possible to have democracy with foreign occupation?
Will there be permanent US bases?
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2004/040323-enduring-bases.htm
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France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, Italy and England.  All democracies, all with U.S. bases.  Not all of them will hold permanent U.S. forces.  For instance, the U.S., after rebuilding and revamping a foreward military base, handed it over to Turkey (another democracy) upon their withdrawal.  And no, I don't think there will be permanent U.S. bases in Iraq, since permanent is another name for forever.  In the fullness of time, U.S. will withdraw its forces and the Iraqi military will take legal possession of the rebuilt bases.

I do wonder if you would have this question had Saddam kept control of Kuwait back in 1991 and built permanent Iraqi military bases on foreign soil.
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Good point Alicat.
I probably wouldn't have even thought about that question in 1991. Unfortunatly, I was a typical teenager not paying any attention to issues around the world. I regret it very much. Its just so hard for me to find any good outcome after the way our government went into Iraq. All the collateral damage bothers me. But no doubt, you have a great point.
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In every war since man first threw a rock at another, there has always been collateral damage.  Only difference now is that most of it is unintentional, quite unlike the razing of Carthage and the symbolic furrow of salt (salting the earth), or Hitler's systematic razing of Warsaw.  Also, collateral damage is a very broad, all-encompassing term.  A broken window from a rock fight is collateral damage.  An innocent bystander mowed down by gang warfare is collateral damage.  Plowing into a light pole after being rear-ended is collateral damage.  In warfare, it's used as a euphamism, a watering down of terminology to remove all the unpleasant, upsetting parts.  An example: A packed night club is bombed in Manila.  The target of the bomb was a political rival.  All the other club goers were merely collateral damage.
 
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