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125 posted 06-03-2005 01:46 AM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

I'm glad you brought up schools, Alicat. I wanted to wait to get a response and then move more into that direction.

Here's something that can apply further to this discussion:
NY Times

It certainly may be true that those that are willing to sign up are dedicated to their academies, but there is also a larger circumstance where now many parents are keeping the military service option off of the tablecloth.

It's a no-brainer that the numbers themselves will go up in the summer months, but it also doesn't necessarily mean they'll get their numbers to where they want to be. In fact, they'd be under more pressure in hoping the summer-transition acceleration trend keeps up with prior summer acceleration trends.

Soon enough I feel this administration will have to make a critically defining choice. Either choose to abort the mission in Iraq and rest and re-build our reserve bank, or re-institute the draft, which I feel the latter is not only going to bring out the worst among many American families, but further disspirit the administration's own agenda.

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126 posted 06-07-2005 04:20 PM       View Profile for catalinamoon   Email catalinamoon   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit catalinamoon's Home Page   View IP for catalinamoon

Months later, and re-reading this thread, just want to say I am with you Noah. I don't know if there will be a draft or not. I am fed up with the way this war is continuing to take innocent lives on both sides. Enough already. It was enough before it was falsely started.
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127 posted 06-07-2005 08:51 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel



Awwwwwww, thanks Sandra! I sure have missed you on Passions! I hope you've been well lately, as I miss your poetry too! (angel friendship hugs)

I really do hate talking about this and really don't like to keep thinking of this scenario, but I truly believe the fact is we're approaching a point where a huge decision must be made; if the war on terror continues to be pursued at the current rate, or if the draft re-surfaces. I don't see any third direction and no one has successfully been able to say what other options there may be when I asked before.

Hey Sandra, by the way, I think you've just inspired me to open up a new thread, speaking of "it was enough before it falsely started".

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

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128 posted 06-25-2005 02:29 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8342995/

A new AP-Ipsos poll reveals that over two-thirds of Americans oppose a possible return of the draft, in result of dismal monthly recruitment numbers and no end in sight for the current wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The poll also revealed among those polled, about two-thirds say they'd oppose their daughters joining the service, with more than half saying the same for their sons.

Also, though men favored the draft idea more than women, and Republicans more than Democrats, a majority among all groups oppose the idea.

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And in the coming months, with it heavily unlikely the Pentagon and the Army are going to see sudden bursts of new recruits because the war in Iraq is the #1 reason almost everyone doesn't want to join...

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.......they're going to have to make the choice,...........re-instate the draft, or abort the war in Iraq.

And I think we all know how disastrous the former would be on not only Americans and families, but on the morale of our troops too.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

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129 posted 06-25-2005 02:57 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

And yet Congressman Rangel (D/NY) keep introducing legislation to reinstate the draft.  Not in any hope of getting his bill accepted, just to continue undermining the military, both in 2003 and 2004.  I wouldn't be surprised if he tried again in 2005, just to continue his misinformation and fear-mongering crusade.  Of course, there's plenty of accomplices to ensure the spread of rumors and lies, selling them as gospel truth, from bloggers, online/offline PACs, unions, media, protestors, and educators.

Dr. King dreamed of a day when all will be judged not by the color of their skin, but the content of their character.  Rangel's actions and words speak volumes of his character, and I find him lacking.
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130 posted 06-25-2005 03:07 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

And you should understand, especially not being a Democrat either (I only lean more in support to the Democrats than the current GOP)  that I obviously absolutely disagree with him.

How I wish the Democrats truly are the party of "No" in an oppositional party sense. They're just not. They haven't united against the war. They haven't united against torture. Even a few Democrats failed to unite on the ANWR vote.

Absolutely agree with you he's lacks real character.

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131 posted 06-25-2005 03:15 PM       View Profile for Ron   Email Ron   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Ron's Home Page   View IP for Ron

Polls, Noah, are pretty much meaningless. It's been decades since I've seen one that disputed what those running the poll were trying to prove, and even longer since I've seen one that wasn't purposely biased. They are as easily manipulated as aspiring actresses.

When push comes to shove, there's only one kind of poll that really matters, only one that can make a difference.

We call it an election.
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132 posted 06-25-2005 05:33 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Ron!!! i had no idea you had experience with aspiring actresses!!!
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133 posted 06-25-2005 06:15 PM       View Profile for Mistletoe Angel   Email Mistletoe Angel   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Mistletoe Angel's Home Page   View IP for Mistletoe Angel

From Democracy Now!

Pentagon Developing Massive Database on Millions of U.S. Students
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/24/1348257

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Noah Eaton

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134 posted 06-25-2005 08:44 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Nothing new, Noah.  Military screens possible applicants, just like other businesses screen possible applicants.  If you're so against that, then I bet you absolutely loathe sport scouts.  Before, during the 80's (not sure about now or the 90's), the armed forces would administer the ASVAB in high schools, and they were much better gauges of academics and critical thinking skills than the majority of state tests.  Granted, recruiters selected candidates based off their scores, but one could always opt out, and barring that, simply say 'Thanks, but no thanks.'
 
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