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Yesterday the front page of New York Times featured a flawed article asserting, "The Iraqi interim government has warned the United States and international nuclear inspectors that nearly 380 tons of powerful conventional explosives — used to demolish buildings, make missile warheads and detonate nuclear weapons — are missing from one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations. The huge facility, called Al Qaqaa, was supposed to be under American military control but is now a no man's land, still picked over by looters as recently as Sunday."

CBS News' "60 Minutes" admitted today they were saving the same story to air the Sunday before the election.

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Kerry slams Bush over missing Iraq explosives
AFP: 10/25/2004

DOVER, New Hampshire, Oct 25 (AFP) - Democratic hopeful John Kerry Monday branded President George W. Bush`s administration arrogant, blind, incompetent and guilty of "great blunders" after the disappearance of 380 tons of high explosives in Iraq.

Kerry pounced on reports by the International Atomic Energy Agency that the explosives that could be used in conventional or nuclear bombs had disappeared, as proof Bush had failed as US commander in chief.

"George W. Bush, who talks tough, talks tough, and brags about making America safer has once again failed to deliver," Kerry said.

"After being warned about the danger of major stockpiles of explosives in Iraq this president failed to guard those stockpiles.

"Terrorists could use this material to kill our troops, our people, blow up airplanes and level buildings," Kerry said.

"Now we know our country and our troops are less safe because this president failed to do the basics, this is one of the great blunders of Iraq one of the great blunders of this administration.

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RACINE, Wis. - Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards lashed out at the Bush administration Monday over the disappearance of hundreds of tons of explosives in Iraq.

At a rally in a park along Lake Michigan's shoreline, Edwards referred to a report from the International Atomic Energy Agency about nearly 380 tons of conventional explosives that were looted from a former Iraqi military facility.

Iraqi officials told the nuclear agency the materials were stolen and looted because of a lack of security.

"This is exactly what we've been worried about," Edwards told several hundred people at the rally. "This is incompetence. This is failure."

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WASHINGTON, Oct. 25 /PRNewswire/ -- House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi issued the following statement today on the Bush Administration's failure to secure hundreds of tons of high-grade explosives in Iraq:

"President Bush's incompetence in failing to make certain that Iraqi stocks of high explosives and ammunition were secured has increased the risk to our troops in Iraq and to people around the world who might be the targets of terrorists.

"At a minimum, the Administration should have heeded warnings that it must secure these lethal explosives to prevent them from falling into the wrong hands. By failing to do that, the President and his Administration have provided access to the most dangerous kinds of raw materials -- some 380 tons of explosives from one location alone -- to the insurgents, and to terrorists in the Middle East and elsewhere.

"The chaotic security situation in Iraq today is a direct result of mistakes the President made before the invasion was launched -- by not planning adequately for the aftermath of the fall of Saddam Hussein. The missing high explosives, nuclear equipment, and other materials unfortunately demonstrate that the world's security will be diminished by those mistakes for years to come."


Source: Office of House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi
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NBC Proves "Exclusive" Reports Wrong  Posted by Ashley Obrey on Oct 26, 2004, 10:39



The story surrounding the disappearance of 380 tons of explosives from a storage depot in Iraq takes a new turn with news from NBC. The network’s television news crew who traveled with American troops during the invasion of Iraq reported first-hand that the explosive material could not be found when the U.S. military first arrived, proving wrong reports by CBS NEWS and the New York Times.

An exclusive news broadcast updating the April 2003 report of missing explosives in Iraq was repackaged by CBS NEWS for air on 60 MINUTES to turn up the heat on the Bush Administration less than a day before elections. The report would claim military failure to secure the explosives from a storage depot in Iraq.

NBC, however, proves that the CBS report is false. While its crew was embedded with the U.S. Army’s 101st Airborne division at the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad, the troops found a large supply of conventional explosives, but there was no trace of HMX or RDX, the types of powerful explosives that reportedly went missing after Saddam Hussein’s government fell.

CBS NEWS “lost” the story, and it instead debuted in the New York Times on Tuesday. Although it is uncertain how the story fell out of CBS NEWS’ hands, according to the L.A. Times, the source on the story who approached 60 MINUTES on Oct. 20 also expressed interest in the New York Times

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Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News
By Melanie Hunter
CNSNews.com Deputy Managing Editor
October 26, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - A media watchdog group Tuesday said "what amounted to an 'October surprise'" by the New York Times and CBS News blew up in their faces.

The Times was first to report Monday what it considered to be new information that 380 tons of explosives were missing from an Iraqi military facility that was supposed to be under U.S. military control. But an NBC News report later noted the explosives were already gone before troops arrived at the Al-Qaqaa installation in April 2003.

CBS News' "60 Minutes" was planning to hold the story until Halloween, two days before Election Day, according to the Drudge Report Tuesday. "Our plan was to run the story on October 31, but it became clear that it wouldn't hold..." Jeff Fager, executive producer of the Sunday "60 Minutes," reportedly said in a statement.

"Both the New York Times and CBS have repeatedly shown they have chosen sides against President Bush in this election and, once again, they have been caught with Halloween eggs on their faces," said Media Research Center President Brent Bozell in a statement.

"Once again it's the Times, once again it's CBS, once again it's 60 Minutes, and once again they have proven that they cannot be believed when it comes to election coverage or anything else," Bozell said.

"The Times, CBS News, and 60 Minutes especially, have proven beyond all doubt that they are nothing more than extensions of the Democratic National Committee and they have no credibility whatsoever. In fact, episodes such as this and the Rathergate fiasco prove they may be even more partisan than the Democratic Party itself," he added.
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In case anyone got confused following all of that, let me make it simple...

(1) The NY Times reported over 380 tons of dangerous explosives were missing and, without bothering to validate the facts, printed it.

(2) John Kerry, perusing headlines for anything he could use against Bush, jumped on it, also not bothering to verify it.

(3) John Edwards jumped on it

(4) Nancy Pelosi jumped on it, as did newspapers across the country.

(5) 60 Minutes was sitting on it to spring it the eve of the election to sway voters.

(6) NBC News proved it to be a false story.


Anyone out there still want to claim the media is not liberal? Attaboy, John. Keep shooting yourself in the foot....holler if you need more bullets. We love ya....

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Get a grip Balladeer.  Did not you hear CBS was going to withhold the findings of the investigation of their use of forged documents to slam Bush because they did not want to unfairly effect the presidential election.  That proves their neutrality.

Everyone knows the ammo story was not scheduled as an October surprise to effect the election because the main stream media is not biased.

Shame on you.

It is just a strange coincidence that on the same day both the forged letter and the missing ammo stories broke, the Kerry campaign already had tv commercials taking advantage of the unbiased stories of the unbiased mainstream media.  

It just proves Kerry doesn't need to read the headlines.  The mainstream media certainly wouldn't work with a campaign which means Kerry truly is prescient.

You need to chill out and borrow some camo and get you one of those their hunting license and get some goose blood on your hands.
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It's not a new story. But it's true.

So, you think Sinclair is a liberal?

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In other words, ad hominem tu quorque

Is that the right spelling?



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Actually, Tim, I think Kerry should bag another goose....because his is cooked.
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Strange coincidence?  Geeze, there's been so many of those lately with the DNC and their housemates, I sure wish one of them could give me the winning Powerball numbers.  That many 'coincidences' could be my lucky break.  I mean, how often do these 'coincidences' occur without creating some sort of pattern of decisive intuitive thought to attempt to disembowel the opposition?

Kerry and his cohorts are definately full of intelligence, Machiavellian methods, determination, 'hope', and stuff normally left by cows in a field.

I'm just hoping like hell that he doesn't get the chance to hold onto his Senate seat if his campaign comes up short.  If Bush can work and campaign, then why not those two 'absent' Senators, who have missed so much work these past two years.  That's even more appalling for Edwards, who's still in his first Senatorial term.
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No, Brad...there is no "r" in the last word....but I fail to see how it applies here.
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No, Brad, I don't think Sinclair is trash like the New York Times or CBS but look at how his fellow news counterparts treat him...

"Sinclair's decision to pre-empt network programing less than two weeks before the Nov. 2 presidential election to run a program highly critical of Democratic candidate Sen. John Kerry ignited an outcry that reached newspaper editorial pages, 24-hour news and even Wall Street as Sinclair's stock price took a beating. Its stock fell nine cents to $7.08 on the Nasdaq Monday, the same day that Moody's Investors Service revised the outlook on its debt rating to negative from stable in part because of revenue forecast concerns."

The liberal press sounded the war drums against him....the same ones that applauded Fahrenheit 9/11. You do the math...
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And Slate ran a piece on the missing explosives thing.

I don't fault Kerry for bringing it up. It's still one more example of Bush's incompetence.

You know, if you said the NY Times was liberal, how many would deny it?

But, no, instead you say the media. But come back to earth, Mike.

Fox news is liberal?

Sinclair owns more television station than any other single person.

The Washington Times is liberal?

The Wall Street Journal is liberal?

How many liberal radio talk shows are there?

What you are doing, gee, kind of like the wolves commercial, is fostering fear.

And then attack the other guy for doing what you do.

Don't get me wrong, it's a brilliant strategy -- it simply confounds the rest of us.

But it's also untrue.
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This is not about truth or fairness.  It’s about winning.

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I certainly don't believe it's a liberal media.

I have to get my news from Democracy Now!, provided by Indymedia and free Speech TV because basically all mainstream news outlets are more homogenized than ever before.

CNN is hardly liberal in any way. Until last week, Lou Dobbs was the only one I could trust on their whole programming line-up, but after pouncing on Teresa heinz Kerry for the innocent comments he made about Laura last week, comments which Laura even said there was no need apologizing for, I have boycotted him as well.

Sinclair Broadcasting is ultra-conservative. They went as far to say that "Stolen Honor" was "news". I'm STILL waiting to hear that vice-president Mark Hyman apologize for vice president of Sinclair apologize for saying "The networks are acting like Holocaust deniers and pretending these people (the POWs) don't exist. It would be irresponsible to ignore them."

97% of the campaign funds Sinclair offered went to the GOP. That should say a lot!

I find it laughable for those who consider this an intense liberal media especially with the fact that Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, a media watch group in New York, did this study in the week leading up to the war after Colin Powell made his call for action. They looked at the four major nightly newscasts (CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS’s NewsHour with Jim Lehrer) and of the 393 interviews done around war, only three were with anti-war representatives.

This came during a time when at least half the people in this country were either saying "no" to the invasion or were saying "at least give more time to diplomacy and inspections."

I can also say that this certainly is not a biased conservative media neither. It's neither. It's all just homogenized, generic instant oatmeal media nuked under a Fox Factor.

Of course, studies have shown if you are a regular viewer of Fox News, you are far more likely to believe there are WMD's in Iraq than those who don't watch Fox News. Thus explains much of the 75% of GOP supporters believing WMD's still exist.

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You're right, Brad. When I said liberal press that was not meant to mean the ENTIRE press, only the majority. I should have been more clear. Interesting, though, how the non-liberal members of the press get gang-jumped when they do something the liberal side doesn't like....such as the example chown above.

I don't fault Kerry for bringing it up. It's still one more example of Bush's incompetence.

Bush is incompetent because Kerry brought up a false report to attack him on? I'll have to give that one a LOT of thought...

Yes, of course, the Washington Post, the New York Times and the WSJ Journal are liberal...that's no secret. CBS and 60 Minutes? They should be hired as Kerry's campaign managers...except they would have to stop using forged documents. Why aren't there more liberal rasio programs? Easy...they've tried. They're just not very good at it and don't have a message enough people want to hear.

The "attack the other guy" remark is lost on me. When Bush starts using forged documents and false reports, I'll understand it better.

Fostering fear? Kerry is busy telling mothers Bush will re-instate the draft, hoping they forget that the only bill introduced to do so was by a Democrat and the fact that it was defeated soundly, the only dissenting votes coming from Democrats. He is busy telling seniors Bush will take away 30-40% of their benefits, which is pure bull. He's busy telling blacks Bush will try to get all their votes nullified. He's busy telling the middle class how miserable their life really is, even if they don't realize it. Bush is telling people that thee are grave threats against the country in the future and the man who voted not to kick Hussein out of Kuwait is not the man who can handle it. Which sounds more like fostering fear in the American people?

Speaking of being confounded, you entire reply does that to me...except for the fact it's a lot of tap-dancing to change the subject from the original point of the thread which was the Times running a story proven to be untrue, 60 Minutes waiting in the background with the same story to spring it on the public right before the election, and John Kerry, Edwards, Pelosi and a cast of many jumping on it to blast Bush. You mention the wolf commercial and ignore the ostrich...Gregory Hines would be proud of you.
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Fairness in reporting, Noah? Spare me. Find it laughable if you wish but please answer me this. Which news media questioned Kerry about saying he had fostered over 50 bills when the truth was less than a dozen? Which news media questioned Kerry about his senate record for the past 20 years? Which questioned him about his record of voting for tax raises for 20 years when he says he will lower taxes? Which questioned him about his war record or carried comments made by the swift boat veterans on the front pages?  Which ones spoke out about the plentiful inaccuracies founf in Fahrenheir 9/11? Which have questioned him about how he plans to form an alliance concering Iraq when his alleged alliance partners want nothing to do with one?

Point out the major newspapers or media giants that did and we'll talk....
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When John Kerry stood before the Democratic Convention
saluting and offering himself as a Vietnam War hero, he
opened up the issue of his subsequent anti-war activities,
particularly his testimony before the congressional committee
in 1971, for public review and discussion and yet I haven’t seen
any major media programs on the subject.  It’s as if it didn’t
occur except in the minds of a few veterans.  Why is that?

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Good question....and which major media made mentioned of the fact that he didn't throw his medals away....he forgot and left them at home?

HINT: The same ones that carried the comments of a secretary in the National Guard stating she thought Bush "got away with things" on the front pages in bold letters.
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What major media are you talking about?

I've read about this stuff all over the place.

Are you sure you don't want those major media to confirm to tell you what you already know?

Oh, and WSJ is NOT liberal. The Washington Post is (Well, kind of), the Washington Times is not.

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You've read about that stuff all over the place, Brad, from the major media? You are quite good a finding links. I'd love to see a few examples of where you have read them. I assure you I can find hundreds which deal with every possible imaginative derrogatory detail on Bush.

While you are looking, please find me something that deals with Edwards avoiding the question in the debate of how they are going to form an Iraq coalition with countries stating they will not do so under any circumstances. Also, when Kerry was asked in the debate about tort reform, he replied "Tort reform is neccessary and must be addressed....." and then changed the subject.  Find something that mentions the 9 times he had voted against tort reform and tries to pin him down on what exactly he would do about it. You know as well as I a Kerry/Edwards ticket woulf not touch tort reform. The press does, too. Do they ask him about it? Nope.

Edwards left himself wide open in his debate on the Iraq coalition, tort reform, his senatorial record and other points. What made the headlines the next day in the major newspapers and on the morning shows?...Cheney saying he hadn't met Edwards before when, in fact, they had been at a breakfast together....go figure.
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ROFLMAO
Not liberal media?!? Good grief, get your heads out of the sand, and that finger out of your nose that they are leading you around by...
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I'm a little confused, I guess. Do we want people in the media to not have opinions? Or do we just want theirs to always reflect our own?

Balanced reporting isn't about every reporter's or announcer's quest for an all-too-mythical unbiased truth. Rather, it's about being able to choose whose biases you want to hear today.

As to this particular incident, I agree Kerry was wrong and should face the consequences of being wrong. A judgment predicated on bad information is still a judgment, the yardstick against which all leaders must be held.

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Why aren't there more liberal rasio programs? Easy...they've tried. They're just not very good at it and don't have a message enough people want to hear.

That would seem to not bode well for the liberals come November. If their message lacks popular support, maybe it's time they found a different message?
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Of course people in the media can have opinions. That's what editorial pages are for. Front pages should be for unbiased representation of the facts. Yes, pure unbiased reporting may be a myth but it's like shooting 18 on the golf course....can't be done but it doesn't stop one from trying one's best to achieve it. When different sections of the newspaper appear to have been written by Elsworth Toohey concentrating on a singuar subconscious theme, they go too far.

As to this particular incident, I agree Kerry was wrong and should face the consequences of being wrong.

Here is Kerry "facing the consequences" today..

SIOUX CITY, IOWA - Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) accused President Bush (news - web sites) on Wednesday of "dodging and bobbing and weaving" on explanations for nearly 400 tons of missing explosives in Iraq (news - web sites).  Kerry hit hard at this week's revelation that explosives had disappeared from an outpost in Iraq.

"The missing explosives could very likely be in the hands of terrorists and insurgents, who are actually attacking our forces now 80 times a day on average," Kerry said at a rally in Sioux City. "But now today we've learned even more. What we're seeing is a White House that is dodging and bobbing and weaving in their usual efforts to avoid responsibility, just as they've done every step of the way in our involvement in Iraq."

Bush did bring up the matter a few minutes later, in a speech in Lititz, Pa.

"Now the senator is making wild charges about missing explosives when his top foreign policy adviser admits, quote, 'we do not know the facts.'" Bush said. "Think about that — the senator's denigrating the action of our troops and commanders in the field without knowing the facts. Unfortunately, that's part of a pattern of saying almost anything to get elected."

It would appear that not even the truth is capable of altering Kerry's actions. He just ignores it and piles right on. Apparently he believes that if he tells the same lie enough times he can make it true or else he believes that the American public is too stupid to know the difference. Hopefully, they are not.

Yes, it is definitely time they found a different message but, to do so, they would have to change their entire philosophy. They would have to believe in less government control, lower taxes, fewer "crises" to generate for the purpose of convincing the public that only a democratic government can save them...I don't see that happening with the leaders they have in power now. The last democratic president to do that was JFK, who believed that lower taxes stimulated the economy, that one acted BEFORE a crisis took place (as in the Cuban blockade), a man who believed in individual rights for all citizens. They didn't call JFK's presidency Camelot for nothing....that was the way he made the American people feel about living here. One would think that the Democrats would continue that tradition since it had been so successful. JFK was the last one to do it. Now we have democratic "crisis" managers...and they create crises to manage. Americans would like to hear, I believe, some positivity about living in the US...then democrats offer gloom and doom (unless, they are quick to point out, they are in power). No, they won't change the message. It's too ingrained in them. Like wind-up dolls who have been programmed to say only certain phrases, so go the democratic leaders. Every four years, it is a "health care" crisis, then a "middle class" crisis, followed by a "social security" crisis and never forget the "educational" crisis - and every four years they promise to take care of these...and then, four or eight years later, they are promising the same things again. CLinton was elected on his "I will fix our health care system" promise. When asked after his presidency was over what his biggest disappointment was, he said it was not being able to come up with a good health care program. Now John Kerry will fix the health care system...the string is pulled on the wind-up doll and the same words come out. The biggest problem the Democrats have is that they believe Americans are basically stupid and they can treat them as such. They don't talk to the AMerican people - they talk down to them. They think they can just throw time-tested phrases up in the air and six-pack Joe will buy them....and they can't figure out why they keeps losing ground. Now we have two multi-millionaires (one by marrying it and one by taking nearly half the money from victims receiving compensation) and they are trying to act like your common, ordinary "I can relate to the middle class" joe. Look! I'm a goose hunter! They are both laughable in their efforts.

I've said many times I beleived Clinton to be an undesirable president but, to his credit, I have to say he was real. He disn't put on a lot of airs. He was a man you could imagine having a beer with in the local bar. The common man could relate to him. Sure, he was a buffoon but you knew what you got with him and could almost feel sorry for the guy when his weaknesses landed him in hot water. That's why he got elected twice - he was a man one could relate to. If the Democrats want another man in the big chair they had better come up with someone who can relate to the American people and appear to be real instead of speaking to them from high atop Mount Olympus. The closest thing they have is John Edwards...and the best thing Kerry has going for him is John Edwards. Unfortunately, instead of being his own man, Edwards is at this time Kerry's parrot...which I suppose is normal behavior for a running mate to have...

I've rambled enough...too much? Yep, probably
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While we're on the subject of media, let me point out some other points.

What about Clear Channel? I feel they couldn't possibly be any more partisan. They and Cumulus stations blacklisted the Dixie Chicks from their playlists because of an unfavorable Bush comment. They have put many Vietnam-era protest songs on a "black list" for singles they want to restrict from their playlists. They even tried to keep a billboard from being put up in Times Square in New York City which read "Democracy Is Best Taught By Example, Not By War".

What about the important stories the media virtually completely ignored this year? Bush's continuing harrassment of climatologists and science? Robert F. Kennedy Jr. blasted Bush for using "junk science" to prop up policies that benefit corporate polluters.

I think absolutely no one is talking about one the very first moves Bush made in the White House. He fired engineer Tony Oppegard, the leader of a federal team investigating a 300-million-gallon slurry spill at a coal-mining site in Kentucky which the Environmental Protection Agency dubbed "the greatest environmental catastrophe in the history of the Eastern United States." Bush then appointed industry insiders to top EPA posts regulating mines.

In another case, a week after the EPA released a study to congressional staff about the toxic effects on groundwater of hydraulic fracturing--a process of injecting benzene into the ground to extract oil and gas--the agency revised its findings in response to "industry feedback" to indicate that the practice posed no threat after all. Among the companies using the practice: Halliburton, once headed by Vice President Dick Cheney.

Where's all this news about that in our media?

What about John Ashcroft attacking The Alien Tort Claims Act, a 215-year-old law originally passed to prosecute pirates for crimes committed on the high seas, allows noncitizens to sue any individual or corporation present on U.S. soil? His agency even claimed in a brief last year that the law threatens "important foreign policy interests" associated with the war on terrorism.

What about that new litmus test established for federal judges? Bush is relying solely on the Federalist Society, founded in 1982 by radical conservatives law students at the University of Chicago. Bush Sr. has taken a radical step further to eliminating the role of the mainstream American Bar Association in the review of nominees. (Now, seven out of 12 circuit courts are anti-abortion, and seven of the nine Supreme Court justices are Republican appointees)

What about the Gulf War Syndrome and all the new cases of troops from Iraq of abnormal accelerated heart beats and malignant migraine? Where's all the news about uranium contamination in troops and civilians?

At the International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan in Tokyo last December, a team of attorneys from Japan, the United States and Germany indicted Bush on a number of war-crimes charges--among them the use of depleted uranium in armor-piercing weapons. Leuren Moret, president of Scientists for Indigenous People, testified at the trial and later reported that a U.S. government study conducted on the babies of Gulf War veterans conceived after the soldiers returned home found that a full two-thirds suffered from serious birth defects or illnesses, including being born without eyes or ears, or with missing or malformed organs or limbs.

And guess what? Those are the images we NEVER see on the mainstream news networks!

What about stories of our natural resources being given away? Take, for example, how Congress has promised $3 billion in tax cuts to mining corporations to help them access natural gas embedded in underground coal deposits in Georgia's Powder River Basin. The Bureau of Land Management has calculated that miners will waste a full 700 million gallons of publicly owned water a year in the process--thereby sucking the region's underground aquifers dry and hurting local farms and wildlife.

Bill Clinton strived to work to protect the giant sequoias by creating a 327,000-acre national monument in the southern Sierra Nevada just four years ago. Under Bush, they are at risk for being logged at a rate of 10 million board-feet of lumber a year--a higher rate than allowed on surrounding National Forest lands--in the name of "forest management."

What about that widow of September 11th, Ellen Mariani, the wife of Louis Neil Mariani, who died when terrorists flew United Airlines Flight 175 into the World Trade Center's south tower? She had come to believe top American officials including Bush, Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and others had foreknowledge of the attacks, purposefully failed to prevent them, and had since taken pains to cover up the truth.

Her press conference was left in the dust.

I could go on and on here. Nuclear plants getting tax breaks, the gap between the rich and poor widening, the opening of the Tongass National Forest.

And when not even one single percent of interviews done right before the war began were from anti-war representatives, a war which a majority of Republicans support and a majority of Democrats oppose, it should say something deep.

I just absolutely find it absurd how this could be considered a "liberal media". It's NOT. Period.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

"You'll find something that's enough to keep you
But if the bright lights don't receive you
You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20

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What about that widow of September 11th, Ellen Mariani, the wife of Louis Neil Mariani, who died when terrorists flew United Airlines Flight 175 into the World Trade Center's south tower? She had come to believe top American officials including Bush, Cheney, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, and others had foreknowledge of the attacks, purposefully failed to prevent them, and had since taken pains to cover up the truth.

Her press conference was left in the dust.


The dust sounds like about the right place for such ridiuclous accusations, Noah.
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It's true.

In her federal lawsuit, she used the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act, this law created originally to go after the Mafia, to charge the nation's leaders with conspiracy, obstruction of justice and wrongful death.

Her lawyer, Philip J. Berg, a former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, filed this 62-page complaint that included 40 pages of evidence. He wrote in this press release sent to 3,000 print and broadcast journalists announcing the lawsuit and a press conference on the court steps that day, "Compelling evidence...will be presented in this case through discovery, subpoena power by this Court, and testimony at trial,"

Indeed saying that the administration allowed the attacks so Bush and company could launch their "war on terror" does sound like a conspiracy, no one could argue that. However, that case has the potential to uncover and publicize critical documents and testimony about the Bush administration's handling of the al-Qaeda threat and its aftermath.

Her press conference was left in the dust...period. Only Fox News showed up, and they ran nothing on this topic.

Balladeer, I can understand why you may think I am making "ridiculous accusations" here. After all, the media completely ignored this story, so I certainly can't blame anyone for not knowing about this. I just happened to have learned of this from research and Democracy Now!, who ignore the 63% of recycled news that covers the media every day from the Scott Peterson to Kobe Bryant cases, etc. and get solely to stories on war and peace.

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton



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You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20
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Noah,
It got ignored because it's not a story...
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And the Scott Peterson, Kobe Bryant, Martha Stewart and Michael Jackson cases are?

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

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But if the bright lights don't receive you
You should turn yourself around and come back home" MB20

 
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