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0 posted 01-12-2004 04:21 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine


WAKE UP!!!!!



Much, MUCH too quiet in here!
Doesn't ANYONE have a rant???
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1 posted 01-12-2004 04:29 PM       View Profile for Nightshade   Email Nightshade   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nightshade's Home Page   View IP for Nightshade

I did.....but when I saw your smile....I forgot what it was........
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2 posted 01-12-2004 04:40 PM       View Profile for Greeneyes   Email Greeneyes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Greeneyes

LOL I have a few but I cant post them here...

~*~
In your light I learn how to love
In your beauty how to make poems
You dance inside my chest where
no one sees you and that sight becomes art

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3 posted 01-12-2004 09:43 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

YOU must be joking! You're looking for MORE!??
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4 posted 01-12-2004 10:13 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine


Sure!  Let's get something really upsetting in here for everyone to discuss.  Like the price of gas.  No...not after eating beans.  The OTHER gas!  Well, ok, let's not discuss gas.

How about the situation of incompetent leaders?

Or, there's always the ongoing situations with schools, and their decline.

Who has a really good topic to pick apart?
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5 posted 01-12-2004 10:45 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Did someone mention......buttane?
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Ali...you are sick my friend.  
Someone open a window PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

(There's gotta be something about that in the guidelines...)
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7 posted 01-12-2004 11:47 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

I wrote the forum guidelines.

Aside from that, I have a very serious beef with Native American reservations, being sovereign nations, having things which on their reservations that are illegal in the state, such as casinos and gambling halls, and then influencing state policy and law! Now, I understand that state and federal law does not cross over reservation boundaries. So what exactly gives them the right to influence those laws outside those self-same boundaries? For instance, making very certain that private casinos are denied to those who 'live' in the state; i.e. who aren't on endorsed reservations. Just thinking about all that makes me want to have a lie down.
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8 posted 01-13-2004 12:18 AM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

I'm with you, 'cat. That's a lot of sitting bull!! We should Sioux!!!
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LOL, you guys are TOO MUCH! I'm trying really really hard to stay OUTTA here, and get organized for a major move, and you keep drawing me back in like a bowl of honey.
LOL, K, do you really want me to get started on our "leaders?" or anything else political? LOL, anyway, have fun, I might pop in again later and drop a bomb shell or two of verbiage. Nothing new there. LOL.
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10 posted 01-13-2004 06:52 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

Indians want to run things their way?  Oh for shame...sounds to me that it's a matter of what went around is coming back to bite us in the behind.

Sorry - me siding with whatever the Indians can get.  However, I don't have ALL the facts at this point.

'Splain!
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11 posted 01-13-2004 12:38 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

Well, I live in Arizona, where gambling used to be legal. In the late 80's and early 90's, the reservations utilized the loophole regarding state/federal laws crossing tribal boundaries. In short, they don't. If a criminal enters a reservation, local/state/federal officers cannot give chase, but instead must wait for the tribe to hand the person(s) over. And that's all well and good. When laws began to form limiting gambling in the state, the nations quickly formed committees to see about casinos. Them being on tribal land would make them excempt from local and state laws, excempt from taxation, excempt from regulation and enforcement. After this, they applied more pressure to shut down animal racing not on tribal lands. Which they did. All that's left now is raffles and lotteries not in their direct control. Now, that sounds to me like a monopoly; however, the tribes being sovereign makes them excempt from the law. Having to pay no heed to local/state/federal laws, the tribes here sure do have a hand in the forming of those self-same laws to ensure their continued stranglehold on the gambling industry.

That's not to say I'm either for or against gambling. Nor do I have an issue with those who choose to live on sovereign reservations. It's those that do so when it is most convenient that makes my cholor rise.
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12 posted 01-13-2004 02:42 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

quote:
It's those that do so when it is most convenient that makes my cholor rise.
Emphasis added

Horse of a different color, then [but don't bet on it.]

And how different is what the nations are doing that the federal system doesn't do to the rest of us most everyday?  Last May our legislators voted themselves a 30% pay increase.  Why is it then that the average Joe/Jane is seeing a standard [?] 2% increase if NOT having their wages frozen altogether?  Hiring freezes are still rampant across the states...and we are bringing in a new wave of "now legal" immigrants [who yes, will pay taxes and the like, but have we really gone all out to make sure that every man/woman who truly wants a job in order to get off "the system" have had the opportunity to do so?]

I understand how you can color at the "convenience" of a sovereign nation that will lobby to change their codes and structures at will...but from what I can see, Ali...it is, and unfortunately so, just a matter of every day business.  

By the way, don't you think Burger King should at least lose the price of the bun for their new carb-free meals?  Nope...they're going to continue charging "just the same price"...which still equates to [on my calculator] less for more.

[This message has been edited by Sunshine (01-15-2004 08:29 AM).]

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13 posted 01-13-2004 03:15 PM       View Profile for Alicat   Email Alicat   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Alicat

That's the thing, isn't it.

Now, I have in the past been labeled racist for some of my Views with regards to the gaming industry in Arizona. Which is odd, since my maternal greatgrandpa was 3/4 Comanche and greatgrandma was 1/2 Arkansas Cherokee. I've just never felt the need to use my ancestry or blood properties to garner special treatment. But I digress.

Although not much, as the gaming industry here very much hinges on race and nationality. Were the gaming establishments part of the state instead of self-segregated, they would be held up to the same laws as everyone else, including those of monopoly and regulation. Yes, elected officials have a nasty habit of giving themselves raises and perks, but they don't claim the reason for this is due to their cultural heritage.

And yes, merchants will lose the bun and charge more or the same for low-carb, Atkins approved foodstuffs. You should see the exorbitant costs for 'health' food in the grocery store. One fast-food chain with a 'low-carb' burger has basically a small meat patty with a salad on top, wrapped in paper. In those cases, Barnum was right.
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14 posted 01-13-2004 03:24 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

"I'm a United States Congressman.  I deserve this and that".  Oh, ok.  I'll make sure to look the OTHER way when you retire on that pension we give you, too...

LOL...

Didn't we put the "minority" into minor races - those with less than a pedigree of some form of immigrant status before the word immigrant meant "oops, watch out, they want to scoop soup from MY pot!"

I know I'm simplifying things, Ali - forgive me, that's my nature...

but if the conquerors took from them [your family] by claiming superiority of the white man over all...well by God, if I'm going to label myself somehow better than you, I had best have the brains to back it up.  [Which I don't but that's not the topic.]

At least the Indian Nations are MAKING money...
 
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