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since 12-06-2002
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Lenham, England

0 posted 01-17-2003 08:22 AM       View Profile for LTEvans   Email LTEvans   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LTEvans

Who wrote those guidelines?

They are the most stupid thing I have ever read.
This is my last post as ALL of my work is about drugs or suicide. Of course meaning that I can not post anything. I go now to find some other place that doesn't have such an American attitude.

I suggest that whoever came out with those frankly ignorant guidelines takes the time to read "Rhyme Of An Ancient Mariner" or anything by Dylan Thomas or Slyvia Platt.

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1 posted 01-17-2003 09:13 AM       View Profile for anonymousfemale   Email anonymousfemale   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for anonymousfemale

When you signed up to this place you agreed to the guidelines. Don't complain about things you willingly agreed to.


Don't steal - the Government hates competition.

[This message has been edited by anonymousfemale (01-17-2003 10:01 AM).]

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2 posted 01-17-2003 01:15 PM       View Profile for WinterWren   Email WinterWren   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit WinterWren's Home Page   View IP for WinterWren

I have read lots of poems by you that didn't have anything to do with death or drugs, and I liked them very much. I don't think you should stop posting just because ONE of your poems was considered unacceptable.
You have alot of talent and I enjoy reading your poems very much, other people have had this happen to them and they didn't leave piptalk in a huff they apologized for not reading the guidlines close enough, I think you should lose some of your pride and keep posting.

"I want you to believe in life. Will you find out who you are too late, to change?" -Dishwalla-

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Alabama, USA

3 posted 01-17-2003 06:37 PM       View Profile for Kosetsu   Email Kosetsu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kosetsu

Gah...relax. I've had a number of my own posts pulled for explicit content and the like.

I just post my milder stuff here and keep the rest to myself.


What meaning has a rose when its thorns bear no blood?

Titia Geertman
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since 05-07-2001
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4 posted 01-17-2003 07:26 PM       View Profile for Titia Geertman   Email Titia Geertman   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Titia Geertman's Home Page   View IP for Titia Geertman

You seem to forget you're just a guest in this house. It's quite normal, when you visit someone's home, to go along with the rules set by the owner. Nothing wrong with that.
No need for scolding or calling names.
It's a very immature behaviour your showing here.

If you only want to write about drugs and suicide, well maybe this is just the wrong place for you to be.


Like scattered words will flow

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5 posted 01-17-2003 07:28 PM       View Profile for Larry C   Email Larry C   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Larry C's Home Page   View IP for Larry C

Interesting that you choose to assault a concept you dislike without even asking for the explanation behind them.

I have seen homes that smoke and drink. That was never allowed in the home in which I was raised. The analogy applies here. For, in case you didn't notice, this is a family. There are things in this family we just don't do. Like my dad said, "If you don't like my rules get your own place."

However, I do hope you reconsider. Peace.

If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again.

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6 posted 01-17-2003 07:29 PM       View Profile for Balladeer   Email Balladeer   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Balladeer's Home Page   View IP for Balladeer

Those stupid and ignorant guidelines were written by the fellow who pays for the site that you can post in for nothing. I wish someone could explain to me why people like you have to throw nationalities into your complaints...nobody's keeping you here. Get lost if you don't like it.
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7 posted 01-17-2003 07:36 PM       View Profile for Nan   Email Nan   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Nan's Home Page   View IP for Nan

It's a pretty simple equation...

People who post here are happy here + People who aren't happy here don't post here = I think maybe you're swimming against the tide on this one...
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8 posted 01-17-2003 09:14 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

Interesting, when I read the guidelines I thought them to be rather fair and reasonable.  Oh'well your loss.
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9 posted 01-17-2003 09:18 PM       View Profile for Local Parasite   Email Local Parasite   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Local Parasite's Home Page   View IP for Local Parasite

Rime of the Ancient Mariner had nothing to do with drugs....

[This message has been edited by Local Parasite (01-17-2003 09:21 PM).]

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10 posted 01-18-2003 05:11 AM       View Profile for Severn   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Severn

...and really - is Sylvia's end something to emulate??? Nothing against her work, however, I rather like her poetry...but please - don't romanticise suicide hey?

And honestly - get over yourself. Rules are rules, live with it.


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11 posted 01-18-2003 06:25 AM       View Profile for Phaedrus   Email Phaedrus   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Phaedrus

Anything by Dylan Thomas?

“Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.”

I might be missing something but this doesn’t strike me as a particularly apt anthem for the suicidal.  

[This message has been edited by Phaedrus (01-18-2003 09:23 AM).]

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since 12-13-2001
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The Ravines

12 posted 01-18-2003 10:08 AM       View Profile for Opeth   Email Opeth   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Opeth

The guidelines of this website are relaxed, indeed. Maybe you should try this site...

...and compare guidelines. I am sure you will find that you have it good here at piptalk.
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13 posted 01-18-2003 10:29 AM       View Profile for Midnitesun   Email Midnitesun   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Midnitesun

SIDELINE NOTE: Opeth that site nearly caused me to have spasms! Flashing banners that 'attack' the eyes. I couldn't make it past page two!

As for the rant against Ron's home, I think you may enjoy Artists Corner (if it still exists.)  You can say and do just about anything there. But be prepared, go get your coat of armor on, you will get lots of flames and BS comments. And as for the American thing? Why do you have to throw nationality differences at us? We are more alike than different. Join the free world. Ron has a right to set this place up as he chooses, and you are always free to leave, or stay, as long as you respect his house rules. This isn't a hand slap, but a gentle reminder that we all have rules to follow, like it or not.
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Listening to every heart

14 posted 01-18-2003 11:42 AM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

LT, I do believe your perceived chains have been unshackled.  I wish you well on your foray into other worlds.
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15 posted 01-18-2003 12:32 PM       View Profile for Marshalzu   Email Marshalzu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marshalzu's Home Page   View IP for Marshalzu

It's the english we have a chip on our shoulder, it's been there ever since that Independence thingy you keep on going on about...

*strokes the chip on his shoulder*
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16 posted 01-18-2003 01:42 PM       View Profile for Kellie_Cantrell   Email Kellie_Cantrell   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Kellie_Cantrell

well rules wll be rules
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17 posted 01-18-2003 03:00 PM       View Profile for Denise   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Denise

Although I know you are jesting, Marshalzu, I do believe that there is an element of truth to that assertion for many people of many nationalities and races. It is a similar chip on the shoulder that a coworker has toward the English for starving our Irish ancestors in the supposed famine of the 1800's. Her chip is so huge that she can't even stand to hear an English accent. Or the chip carried by some who are demanding monetary reparations from today's taxpayers for slavery, despite the fact that for most of us our ancestors didn't own slaves, nor condone the practice. Maybe a bit of historical research should be done to trace the ancestry of the wealthy who did own slaves and go after their wealthy descendents for reparations, and leave the rest of us alone. That would seem fair to me.

I think those chips come at quite a cost to the carrier of them, first and foremost, but also to the rest of us who become the objects of their inevitable wrath.  
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18 posted 01-20-2003 05:44 PM       View Profile for neveah5   Email neveah5   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit neveah5's Home Page   View IP for neveah5

I will never understand why people feel the need to insult someone or something before they turn and walk away. Maybe to get attention that they feel they needed and didnt receive before then. Its kind of like slapping someone the face just to see what they will do.

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Jejudo, South Korea

19 posted 01-20-2003 07:28 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

Who is "Slyvia Platt"?

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20 posted 01-20-2003 07:30 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

By the way, I've written about both drugs and suicide and no one's ever complained.
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Between Fantasy and Reality

21 posted 01-20-2003 10:43 PM       View Profile for Paul Wilson   Email Paul Wilson   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Paul Wilson

LTEvans... As an old saying goes,
" If the shoe fits wear it, if not get a new pair"

Or I could say
" Put your brain in gear before you open your mouth"

None of us that replied to this thread owe you an explanation, but when you bash our family and the owner of this site you need not let the door hit you in the back in on you way out.We are a family and will stand up for each other...Paul

"To share my poems with you is to share my heart with you"

[This message has been edited by Paul Wilson (01-20-2003 10:44 PM).]

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the wonderful land of oz

22 posted 01-21-2003 12:18 AM       View Profile for quietlydying   Email quietlydying   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for quietlydying

then obviously you're not very creative.

drugs and suicide?  niice.  topics that everyone and mtv has slobbered all over and thrown aside.

i think they were the movies of last week.

i won't say the rest because everyone already has.


'Christianity is the complete negation of common sense and sound reason.'
-- Mikhail Bakunin

brian madden
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23 posted 01-21-2003 03:21 PM       View Profile for brian madden   Email brian madden   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for brian madden

Of course it seems pointless replying to this thread as the author of it has decided to leave us.
It does seem strange to me that an author would limit him/herself to two subjects,
drugs and suicide. These are subjects that should not be ignored but should not at the same time be glorified. I am not saying that the person who originated this poem did this, i haven't read any of their poems, but as most of them were pulled, I wouldn't have a change to. This is not an issue of censorship, its one of protection for the younger members at this site. Ron has designed this as a family site, we have adult forums for more edgier posts.
I am sure Ron is familar with the works of Plath and Thomas. Even closer to home a lot of poets here have posted poems about such topics as drugs and suicide, as Brad said, and have not had their posts pulled. Maybe you need to readdress how you handle these topics.

[This message has been edited by brian madden (01-21-2003 07:41 PM).]

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