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Words_of_Glitter
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0 posted 12-17-2002 01:36 PM       View Profile for Words_of_Glitter   Email Words_of_Glitter   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Words_of_Glitter's Home Page   View IP for Words_of_Glitter

Has anyone else ever realized that there is barely any real talent on this website...that hundreds of people post here and possibly 1 out of 200 poems are even worth reading...that the more a poem sucks, the more replies it gets...that half the members can't even spell, much less rhyme or be creative...that this poetry board sucks possibly more than any other poetry board out there, but everyone visits it frankly because, everyone visits it? I bid farewell to all of you. Good luck on your continuing efforts to not post the crappiest poems I have possibly ever read.

"Time really does fly by and no one knows where it goes, so if you have something to say or do, say or do it now."

1slick_lady
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1 posted 12-17-2002 01:40 PM       View Profile for 1slick_lady   Email 1slick_lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit 1slick_lady's Home Page   View IP for 1slick_lady

well thank you glad you enjoyed my poetry (sticks and stones)...ROFLMAO...helen ps. darn i guess i'll have to stop writing now

[This message has been edited by 1slick_lady (12-17-2002 02:08 PM).]

Sunshine
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2 posted 12-17-2002 01:42 PM       View Profile for Sunshine   Email Sunshine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Sunshine's Home Page   View IP for Sunshine

As this itself is not a poem, and seems a little volatile, I'll move it to the Alley.  Thanks for your thoughts.
Cpat Hair
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3 posted 12-17-2002 01:52 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

Interesting comments. I am not sure what your standards for talent or for poetry are, but obviously they are not met here. Well... I wish you the best in finding someplace that suites your idea of what good poetry is. I do find it unusual.. that rather than just leave because the place has no talent or real poetry....you chose to tell everyone else in a rather inflamatory way about how bad the place is. Makes me wonder what sort of hurt or slight you experienced here to make you so angry and to want to lash out at the people here.

I guess that is none of my business...and I don't want to make it mine. I am simply amazed at the levels of anger and imature response that can come from small slights or inflated egos...

Best of luck to you... do hope you find that place...
Miah
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4 posted 12-17-2002 01:53 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

Hmmm, well.  To each their own.

Personally, I find this place one of the kindest places out there.  The friendships that grow within these blue walls are boundless.  Sorry you missed out.
Christopher
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5 posted 12-17-2002 02:43 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

after a little research, i am left with a phrase: "Those in glass houses shouldn't cast stones."

And I'm sure the "1" out of 200 is mine, right?
Cpat Hair
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6 posted 12-17-2002 02:53 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

Christopher...did the same research..but wasn't going there with my comment...just too easy... ( chuckling)
1slick_lady
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7 posted 12-17-2002 03:02 PM       View Profile for 1slick_lady   Email 1slick_lady   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit 1slick_lady's Home Page   View IP for 1slick_lady

no guys sorry to disappoint you but Her's was the 1 out of 200...we just didn't notice it...tapping my foot and sighing for slighting another hmmmmmmmm

[This message has been edited by 1slick_lady (12-17-2002 03:04 PM).]

Cpat Hair
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8 posted 12-17-2002 03:05 PM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

Well... I do miss a few here and there... I read most all... don't always comment...and some..well some I never make it all the way through... I stand by my earlier statement...

It was just too easy to go there...
Christopher
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9 posted 12-17-2002 03:05 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

I apologize though - It was meant in a teasing manner, but looking at it now, I can see how it could easily be misinterpreted. See where my darn sense of humor gets me???
Christopher
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10 posted 12-17-2002 03:07 PM       View Profile for Christopher   Email Christopher   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Christopher

In addition, I think I'm gonna do some copying and pasting (because I really don't want to have to type it out again. )

- - - - -

Personally, I don't find this insulting. You'd find me much more upset if I thought everyone thought everything here was wonderful and perfect. Diversity is not only necessary, but good. Imagine how much less the world (and poetry) would be, if you didn't have the bad to compare the good to. If everyone wrote "good" poetry, there would be no room for improvement. Not ironically, I'm not too far from agreeing with this person. Subjectively, most of us appreciate the poetry here because we've developed relationships with the poets, because we ourselves are poets, or because we can see potential in many of the works. Objectively though, most of the poetry here isn't very good. But the thing is, is that it doesn't have to be. Because - in the time I've been here, I've seen many poets who started out really bad raise the bar a bit and grow to become better. There are several whom I think have a good chance to be great poets given time and effort.

But I can say that, because I know I'm one of the many who still has a very long way to go before being a truly good poet. And I'm cool with that - as long as I'm growing, I still have a chance. I think this person's mistake is overlooking the potential and foregoing the chance for betterment.
LCBS
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11 posted 12-17-2002 03:12 PM       View Profile for LCBS   Email LCBS   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for LCBS

Yesterday there were 268 active threads, if only one of them was a "good poem," then so be it.  Thats 365 good poems a year, and thats fine with me.

As for the other 97,455  poems...they are working their way to being that "good poem."  And Id like to think thats what this site is all about.  Learning, working, improving, and then helping the newcomers to learn, work, and improve.

Myself, I haven't made it that far yet, but I'm working on it...and thats more satisfying then 1000000000000000 "good poems."
~Lisa
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12 posted 12-17-2002 03:14 PM       View Profile for serenity blaze   Email serenity blaze   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for serenity blaze

I wasn't offended by this either.

I wasn't even offended by the thread that was removed.

*chuckle*

I have said far worse to myself than that.

*shrug*

But then again, my favorite t-shirt has a target on it too. I'm kinda quirky that way...



Peace, good people.
Miah
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13 posted 12-17-2002 03:54 PM       View Profile for Miah   Email Miah   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Miah

Okay, Not all the poetry here is good. Mine is probably one of them.  I write what I feel, if it's good it's good if it's not, sigh, Oh'well.   better luck next time.

My point being is, if you want perfect poetry, then buy a poetry book.  I did not know that this site was for "perfect poetry only"  but instead for posting your emotions, learning from others and growing as a person and writer.  If you don't like the site  just leave, why post something and state you hate the site and almost all the poetry sucks.  If you don't like it leave and go somewhere else.

I read more then I post.  If I say it is "good" to someone or "good write"  it must have touched me in someway, I try to find the beauty in it.  I also feel that replying to a poem not only tells the person that you support their creativeness but keeps them writing and striving to do even better.  I like a lot of what I read, even if in "poetry" terms it may not be the correct format, to me, it touched me or reached me in some way.

Everyone has a right to what they feel, this post was not upsetting.  I just diden't see the need for it. If I diden't like it here I would go somewhere else, simple as that.  

[This message has been edited by Miah (12-17-2002 03:55 PM).]

Moonlight Romeo
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14 posted 12-17-2002 03:57 PM       View Profile for Moonlight Romeo   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Moonlight Romeo

I have a question.

If this place is so terrible, and you hate it so much, why did you post a poem in Open?

Thank you.

What light through yon window breaks?  It is the east, and Juliet is the sun.

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15 posted 12-17-2002 04:26 PM       View Profile for Greeneyes   Email Greeneyes   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Greeneyes

LMAO Christopher, you thought I had thoughts.....

Deep inside the stillness
........I can hear you speak
You're still an inspiration
........To me

Poet deVine
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16 posted 12-17-2002 04:29 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

Thank you for your opinion but I think you're a bit off in your numbers...but then again, what I consider good, you may hate. And what YOU consider good I may read and say 'huh?'. That's life.


Take care and if you find a good place I hope you enjoy yourself there.
Brad
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17 posted 12-17-2002 06:44 PM       View Profile for Brad   Email Brad   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Brad

One out of two hundred?

Wow, that's pretty good. Certainly puts us about where everybody else is.
Wind
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18 posted 12-17-2002 09:17 PM       View Profile for Wind   Email Wind   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Wind

sometimes I agree with this but coommon! I know I am a good poet, and i know so many others with great skills. I would really like to say a lot of rude words, but that would be inapropriate. instead I will say this:

good luck in the real world, because you're gonna need it!

Never be normal!

clve527
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19 posted 12-17-2002 10:11 PM       View Profile for clve527   Email clve527   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for clve527

Okay since I am already hated in one forum of this site I mine as well spread my wings.  First off this person approached this fact in the entirely wrong way, but there is a point to be had here.  There are people on this site that have a lot of poetic talent.  But I do not think this is the best place to bring growth to that talent.  This is probably a great place to nurture self esteem, but I don't see this to be a place for improvement or a place for people that seriously seek improving.  Which is fine, more power to you guys for wanting that.  Okay so that wasn't his point, his point was that he didn't get responses, but I think this sorta ties in.  Or maybe not.  May the public flogging begin.  And let me get this straight, the way this site is is fine for me.  I am just stating a view/opinion.

Casey
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20 posted 12-17-2002 10:48 PM       View Profile for Poet deVine   Email Poet deVine   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Poet deVine

I think if you look at ALL our early work here you'll see we've grown.
Cpat Hair
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21 posted 12-18-2002 10:28 AM       View Profile for Cpat Hair   Email Cpat Hair   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Cpat Hair

(chuckling) Casey... you make me laugh...

There is so much time to be serious later... loosen up and see past the rules of poetry..the rules of being excellent..and feel the life that is in the words....

HUGS to you.... now go drown in the feelings and words...the snippets of image, the human drama and soul played out before you in imperfect fashion..

Skyfire
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22 posted 12-18-2002 04:47 PM       View Profile for Skyfire   Email Skyfire   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfire

Casey, you're great

"it was cute, it was like he was shy and didn't want to make it too obvious"
~ Reena
I'm Rhondiforous!

fractal007
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23 posted 12-18-2002 07:16 PM       View Profile for fractal007   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for fractal007

"Good luck on your continuing efforts to not post the crappiest poems I have possibly ever read."

And half the members are incapable of using correct grammar too, right?

"If history is to change, let it change. If the world is to be destroyed, so be it. If my fate is to die, I must simply laugh"

-- Magus

clve527
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24 posted 12-18-2002 07:38 PM       View Profile for clve527   Email clve527   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for clve527

Cpat: From your logic that means that anyone who can feel can write a poem.  Then what would be the distinguishing factor between me writing a journal entry and me writing a poem?  Line breaks?  Rhyming?  Poetic devices?  All of things are part of the skill behind poetry,  no one naturally has a full understanding of them.  Which explains the need for learning.  Their are plenty of people (on this site) that just want to display their poetry and be told how good it is.  And that's fine, more power to those who have that as their only desire.  But the problem is it seems that many seem to think that this is an ideal place to learn.  If you look around it seems that the majority of people are those that simply want to display their work.  How does one cater to those that want to learn?  Because I think there are those people here?  Is it even possible?  You could likely direct my to Critical Analysis, but the fact of the matter is even their it seems like a display case.  Let me restate, there isn't anything wrong with that.  If all you desire is to display your work, then more power to you.  But anyone who has any desire to be a respected published writer needs to have a place where actual learning takes place.  Okay I think I'm down rambling for now.

Casey

*waits patiently for the trout to the face*
 
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