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0 posted 10-02-2002 06:44 PM       View Profile for Marshalzu   Email Marshalzu   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems   Click to visit Marshalzu's Home Page   View IP for Marshalzu

Why do English spellings differ from American spellings, it's annoying, it's had me checking a dictionary for the last hour (wondering why my spell checker couldn't spell) and then I had some person criticising my spelling of a word which was perfectly correct in English but which was spelt incorrectly in American.

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1 posted 10-02-2002 06:52 PM       View Profile for Skyfire   Email Skyfire   Edit/Delete Message      Find Poems  View IP for Skyfire

Colour
Favourite

(That's all I can think of for now. I'll be back with more). That's the English way of spelling them, right?

My second home is Ryan's place... just don't tell him that, eh?

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Oh, there's plenty more besides that.
What words are being found lacklustre?
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I think Canadian and English are the same. It's just those Americans who insist on being special. I really don't know why. That's a good question.

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LOL ... I understand the frustration Andrew. I'm in a business where I have to have 2 separate template proposals done up, and 2 separate contracts ... one for when I deal with my American clients, and one for my Canadian clients, and all because of the word "checks/cheques", lol.  I never know which spellchecker I should invoke in Word either as I work across the border, back and forth ... some American spellings look foreign to me ... while other renditions make more sense ... it is definately confusing for the typist!  
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Americans seem to have a thing about the letter "u" in words with an "or" ending

colour honour odour

but what is worse is petrol/gas
the different pronouncations of vehicle
it is VE HIC LE  not VEH ICle

calling chips french fries
and calling crisps potato chips.

Don't get me started on the steering wheel thing and side of the road they drive on.


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*waves her hand* Just so the Non-Canadian or American people in here know, there is actually a very good reason why we drive on the right hand side of the road.

My second home is Ryan's place... just don't tell him that, eh?

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You all may feel free to write me in any ol' language...but do feel free, from some countries, to send along a link for a translation dictionary...

I enjoy words SO much, that I do not really care if you write check or cheque...just make sure it gets in the mail!

It can be frustrating, but for some irritating reason, I grasp on to the different spellings, because they are so uniquely special to the country from whence they originate!
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hehehehehe...

You know who you can blame for most of it?

That nasty man Webster and his nasty Webster's American dictionary. He decided that centre should become center for Americans. And that theatre should become theater. And most likely he decided that the letter 'u' just wasn't appropriate in words like colour, favour, mould, odour etc...

and then there's the whole z vs s thing. Personally I think that realise looks so much nicer than realize.

Zu - look up Webster in a search engine and you'll likely find the less simplistic version of events...

But I have a confession, since spending so much time here - I now spell realise as realize and centre as center as often as not...

What *I* want to know is - why do Americans call a tap a faucet?? Oh...yeah - and when is America going to catch up with the rest of the world (oh yes, America needs to catch up for once hahaha) and switch to the metric system? Hah, these are such old discussions - ones I've been having with various USers for the past three years....

Sigh..this makes me miss the States..it was so cool driving around and seeing speed signs for like 35 miles...and picking up a great big whopping gallon of milk (our biggest ones are half the size)..

Not to mention driving on the wrong side of the road - way cool!

K

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Tap??  Why would one call a faucet a "tap"?..  I could stand there and tap it all day long and nothing would come out... I have to open the faucet to get any water...

Of course, there IS the case of brew "On Tap"... Is that why I got fired from that job... I kept tapping the darned thing and got no answer..!!!..
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While we're in the process of stamping out diversity, I also think everyone should have blue eyes. And dress in only red.

Kamla, as someone interested in the sciences, I was on the bandwagon for a US metric system for a long time. I changed my mind one day when, on a long drive from LA to Vegas, I started counting those speed limit signs you so enjoyed. America has more roads than any other country of similar size and I suspect there must be a gazillion of those signs - ALL of which would have to be changed. Talk about a waste of taxes!

That was recently reinforced, too, when I drove north to visit Kit in Canada. Obviously I wanted to avoid the complications of an out-of-country speeding ticket, so I was a bit more careful than I might have been on this side of the border. But, geesh, I felt like I could get out of the car and push it faster than 80 KPH.
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One thing that the U.S. does need changing is our ways of telling temperature.

Celcius is so easy. Water boils at 100, freezes at 0.

Then in Fahrenheit it's 112 and 32?

What kind of random mumbo-jumbo is that?

Absolute zero is -273 C (or O K).

What the heck would that be in F?

Who cares.
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Oh wait, no, water boils at 212. See how confusing this is?

Oh, one more thing I like:

We say Z

others say Zed.
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Mike, Gabriel Fahrenheit set his points of the scale at 0 degrees as the freezing point of brine (sea water) and at 100 degrees as the temperature of the human body. He, uh, was off on the latter by a few degrees.

I agree the Centigrade scale makes a lot more sense, but would personally prefer going to the Kelvin scale. We would never have to worry about negative values, and even Michigan in February would at least sound balmy at well over 200 degrees K.
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quote:
I felt like I could get out of the car and push it faster than 80 KPH.
AMEN! I got pulled over for speeding my first night driving in New Zealand. I, uh, was only going like 75MPH... on a freeway at that.

as for the changing of names - we americans aren't the only culprits, i think. after all, there are plenty of things that originated here that have different nomenclature over "there."

(personally, i like the added "u," though it took me some time to grow accustomed to it)

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LOL. If you're doing less than 75 mph on a California freeway, they call it a traffic jam.

Unfortunately, the Midwest doesn't have freeways. We call them highways. Since almost none of them are elevated, I can only assume the term is meant to describe the drivers and not the road. The East Coast, of course, has neither freeways nor highways. They have toll roads, which strikes me as a very unique idea. You get to go 80 or 90 mph for a few miles, then you sit in line for ten to twenty minutes awaiting your chance to throw change into a big metal basket, just so you can go 80 or 90 mph for another few miles.
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LOL @ nan  They're TAPS! faucet it too long to spell and hard to say hehe....


here's more :

Ketchup- Tomato sauce

Tomatoe/Potatoe - Tomato/Potato (what's with the e on the end?)

Mom- MUM

Cell Phones - Mobiles (how on earth did those two come about? )

Bills - Notes

Elementry - Primary

There's another nifty little thing we have to change around here on the 'puters to be able to print correctly- we have to change the paper size from Letter to A4 That's so annoying.


Are you scared? BOO! Are you now?

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quote:
There's another nifty little thing we have to change around here on the 'puters to be able to print correctly
yeah - then there are the other things you have to change - one, for example, is the electrical cord. why they not only change the plug configuration but the voltage as well is beyond me.

i did notice while i was over in NZ - the phone plugs for the modem: the portion leading from the modem out is the same plug config as we have here in the US... but requires an adapter to fit into the strange, skinny plug they use over there. (and they wonder at us changing a few measly letters???)
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LOL @ toll roads!

When we switched from "miles" to "kilometers" up here years ago, I was so used to thinking "60 miles to go - be there in about an hour", or "30 miles to go - be there in a half an hour" that I was really mixed up in terms of timing, let alone speed, when we switched to kilometers.  

Here's a little trick for converting kilometers to miles on the fly I still use it.

If you're looking at a speed sign or "mileage marker" that's listed in kilometers, and want to know the approximate miles, drop the last digit and multiply the remainder by "6"

20 km (2 x 6) = approx 12 mi
50 km (5 x 6) = approx 30 mi
80 km (8 x 6) = approx 48 mi
100 km (10 x 6) = approx 60 mi
250 km (25 x 6) = approx 150 mi
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"60 miles - be there in an hour"?

wow - as Ron alluded, here, that would translate to about fifteen minutes.
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Kit, that's a cool trick, based on the fact that 1 kilometer equals .6 miles. Much easier than what I've always done. I multiply the kilometers by .5, which is obviously easy, and then by .1, which isn't much harder. Add those two results together for the miles. So, 80K equals 40 plus 8 miles, and 84K equals 42 plus 8.4 miles.

I'm curious, Kit, if you've ever learned to "think" in kilometers?

Chris, one of the more subtle differences between Southern California and the rest of the world is the measurement of distance. Miles are almost useless in California, because twenty miles on the Ventura (LA congestion) is quite different than twenty miles on the 15 (mostly dessert). I didn't realize it until I returned to Michigan, but I was very much in the habit of describing distance in terms of time. I lived twenty minutes from Disneyland and about forty minutes from LAX. (Another subtle difference? In California, we prelude our freeway designations with unnecessary articles. I got stuck on the 405? The first time I did that in Michigan I went through a week of ribbing where everyone at the University was calling me "The Ron." I got their point.)

I keep waiting for Serenity or someone else in the US South to jump in here, because you really don't have to leave America to get confused over word usage. I remember the first time I went into a small store in Louisiana, made a few purchases, and the clerk asked me if I'd like a poke. She was cute, too, but I somehow managed to avoid making a fool out of myself. Ever hear that very old phrase about buying a pig in a poke? Turns out a poke is a paper bag for carrying home your purchases, and not a flirtatious prelude to that fabled southern hospitality.  


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Well ok then, I can jump in...geez Ron, you were in Disneyland's backyard if it only took you 15 minutes....!

A transplanted Californian, I had to grow adept to a lot of verbiage changes coming to the midwest.  "Up" in California meant skyward...Up in Illinois meant North.  I also had to learn that in the midwest, one did not turn left or right, you went east or west.  Don't try this at high noon.

My FIRST trip to Kansas was to arrive by plane in Wichita, grab a rental and head "north" to Salina for a visit.  You can imagine my surprise, Ron, at seeing virtually NO vehicles for some 90 miles on a weekday once we got out of Wichita.  It's improved some since, but I still remember the CA traffic, the Chicago traffic, and a few other places...

we are just NOW seeing smog in some of our larger urban areas, more's the shame....

and to my dietary dictionary and abilities, I've learned to prepare brain and fried green tomatoes....

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I took the 101 to work this morning. It's only 3 miles to work, passing about 4 exits -- it takes 12 minutes to get there.

And yet, when I visit my friend in West Los Angeles, from White Oak to the 101 to 405 S to exit at Pico ... it only takes 20 minutes!

California doesn't believe in math or logic -- or Kelvin.
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I love the opportunities I could take to drive 101...I enjoyed the forays between Solvang and Santa Barbara...beautiful countryside...I enjoyed leaving Santa Maria and driving up the coast line and if you can get over to 1, better yet...

because in all reality, what is time, or miles, when driving along that stretch of God's country?
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ah, but my 101 is different from that one... lol - it runs smack through san fran to san jose, on and on... you can do well on this one if you hit it between the hours of noon and two pm... or after nine at night... any other time, it turns into a parking lot.
 
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