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Mother_Earth
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0 posted 2001-12-14 02:54 PM



Yes, it is time!!  I can't seem to answer poems the way the poets want.  A bit thin skinned lately! Me. Anyway, how do I un-join PIP?
                          

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Poet deVine
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1 posted 2001-12-14 03:44 PM


If you no longer want to post and/or reply. Just don't. But I don't understand the problem. Do you want to talk about it? (email me if you'd like it private)
doreen peri
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2 posted 2001-12-14 05:33 PM


what in heaven's name is this about? geeezzzz what happened? don't go anywhere, you fine poet you!!

who said you don't reply "right"? what the heck does that mean? good grief!!

now, whatever happened, i'd like to see some smiles, some apologies, some forgiveness going around and let's get back to writing and reading poetry ... and let's just be happy, ok?

*sigh*

Janet Marie
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3 posted 2001-12-14 07:00 PM


M.E.--

Sometimes you have to consider the source...
sometimes you just have to let it go...
and focus on the poets who take the  time to reply to your work and return the respect you give them when you read them ...and let the rest do their thing. Unfortunately there are some who dont think they have to play fair like the rest of us...or they have an agenda for being here over and above sharing poetry.
I got your email and I'll be in touch...had some MORE computer probs today.
I think what I have to tell you will help you understand. But the bottom line is...
this is a forum built on respect and you have every right to be here.
Dont let one or two take away the beauty of this place.

Poet deVine
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4 posted 2001-12-14 07:06 PM


You can't leave. Did you read the fine print of your contract? It said you have to give 40 years notice!!!    
rosepetals25
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5 posted 2001-12-14 08:30 PM


Aww... Don't leave!  Poetry is the bottom line.. and those who know and understand that show fellow poets the respect they deserve.. and those are the people you focus on.  I read some of your poetry and I like it.  I hope you decide to stay and keep posting your wonderful words.. both poetry and replies  

Hugs,
Tara

"My heart is like an open book, for the whole world to read"
     - Motley Crue, Home Sweet Home

[This message has been edited by rosepetals25 (edited 12-14-2001).]

Titia Geertman
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6 posted 2001-12-14 09:00 PM


Do stay Mother_Earth

I did send you a mail, so please answer me, for this should not be the right action you're taken: to withdraw because someone hurts your feelings.

Don't leave us, for I will get homesick to you sweet lady.

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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Mother_Earth
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7 posted 2001-12-14 09:51 PM


Thanks all.....I will sleep on it.  I have always tried so hard to understand ALL people and know that each and every one of us has a right to voice their opinion.  We don't have to agree but that doesn't matter.  It won't be easy to post a poem from now on, so will have to decide.  Thanks for the memories........
Tracey
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8 posted 2001-12-15 10:07 AM


Mother Earth, please don't leave on account of the rude words of one person. There are so many wonderful people here, please don't let one bad apple spoil the beauty of passions for you. I have just read the post that you are referring to. There was nothing wrong with your response at all, and the author was rude, opinionated and far too full of his own self importance. I have never read, or responded to this particular authors work, since he came on these pages posting 5-10 poems a day, which is against guidlines, and, quite frankly is rude.
I truly hope you will reconsider, and stay here. Just ignore that one particular author, as I do. As I say, there are so many wonderful people here, please don't allow one person to put an end to the enjoyment you get out of posting and seeing responses to your poems, and reading the poems of others.
Please stay. It is wonderful people like you and all the others that make this place such a nice little family.

If she who dies with the most toys wins, then can I have some toy boys please?

Mother_Earth
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9 posted 2001-12-15 10:22 AM


Thanks and will see what happens.  I have read lots of beautiful poems just this morning, but haven't answered any.  I hope that changes.  I feel hollow.  
Duncan
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10 posted 2001-12-15 07:01 PM


I had no idea who had been rude to you until I read Tracey's response, then I knew exactly.
Mother Earth, please realize that this person would have responded in his manner to anyone, not just you, who didn't respond the way he thought they should.  I can't understand why you are letting his ridiculous ranting affect your interactions here at PIP.  Please reconsider.
And you can misunderstand my poetry anytime you'd like...I'd still be grateful for the fact that you took the time to read and respond.

Titia Geertman
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11 posted 2001-12-15 08:59 PM


I found the thread too and replied to it for I thought it was outragious(?) the way he answered your sincere reply.

Mr. Gruhn (I won't hold back his name anymore now) thought he could overscream me with the same kind of reply he had giving you, even more.

So sweet lady, you're not alone in this anymore, I'm standing right beside you, facing an unrespectful Mr. Gruhn of whom we are not afraid at all, oké?

To tell you the truth: It really would hurt me if I won't see your lovely replies here anymore. So between us: let's just ignore this man, his replies are not worth a dime if he's making them as he did.

Cheer up cuz I  

Titia

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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Magnus
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12 posted 2001-12-15 09:51 PM


Mother Earth...

I want you to know that YOU are not the problem.

The problem lies with an individual who has
be very rude to several individuals here
at Passions...

If you  take note to his latest post from
Ron...you will see it is known that HE
not any of us...is the problem here at
Passions...

You have shown all of us the most graceful
kindness and courtesy...

Don't allow One individual...(who has also
done this at other sites)...to keep you
from posting here at Passions...

I would hate to allow that to be a reason
that I left...The moderators and owner can
handle this individual...

Poet deVine
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13 posted 2001-12-15 09:59 PM


I often find when I get a rude reply, that to ignore it is the best thing to do. If it continues, please contact a Moderator or Administrator.

And these things work themselves out sometimes.

serenity blaze
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14 posted 2001-12-16 12:31 PM


ME---I understand and sympathize...I'm almost afraid to reply to anyone anymore, but for the opposite reason. I am apparently too effusive--and I have already had the problem of having some fairly far out things being read into my postings, and now? It's happening to my replies. Normally I shrug and let it "roll down my back"---but at this particular time in my life I don't have the emotional fortitude to deal with all of this. The hostile e mails, "poetic wars", innuendo in replies, etc....it's depressing.

It genuinely bothers me to think that I have hurt someone, however unintentionally. So for now? I am "hit and miss" as I take a break for a bit--this is an emotional time of the year anyway--and for the record? I have never known you to be rude to anyone, and are certainly undeserving of ill mannered treatment. Unfortunately there are those that feel so powerless in their "real time" life, that they take advantage of the anonymity of the internet to "flex the muscle" of their latent hostilites. It's cowardly of course, as they do not have to own responsibility for the pain they cause.

And funny thing, I was recently accused of that very thing. It bothered me enough that after habitually writing at least one poem a day...I wrote nothing for awhile.

It's a problem, but after a stint as Deputy Moderator, I came to the conclusion that sensitivity (be it hyper-sensitivity or a total lack of) is impossible to moderate. Blatant rudeness is another matter of course. If something slips by the moderators? You should feel comfortable to discuss it with them. Silence IS effective at times, but I found that self-imposed silence was becoming a habit too....SO...
smile...I am back. Sort of. I hope you stick around too.  

(I hope everybody is okay with that.)

oh...wicked, wicked me...  


Mother_Earth
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15 posted 2001-12-16 12:49 PM


All right, all right!!  I am so sorry I got this going and got all of you upset along with me.  I read his replies to all of you and even the one to Ron.  How dare he talk that way to my friends!! I will stick my nose in and check up on you.  It will be awhile before I post but I can live with that.  Thank you all.  You have shown me what true friends are.  ME
Irish Rose
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16 posted 2001-12-16 02:04 AM


Mother Earth....big hug to you
I just saw that thread, that kind of thing happens very rarely here.  We love you...please remember that!  You are one of the sweetest people here. This person obviously had issues that have nothing to do with any of us.  Im so sorry your feelings were hurt!   You are one of the reasons I post here, your just being  you ok?

Kathleen (Kay)
"When red-haired girls scamper like roses over the rain-green grass, and the sun drips honey."
Laurie Lee

CocoBaci
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17 posted 2001-12-16 03:58 AM


psssssst...PoetFriendME,
I treasure your poetryNkind words in reply so I'd like2say2u2nite that I think you're really sweet...
This place is truly a home that warm's many a heart with the precious bond of friendships and exquisite poetry I read here each night...
Hugs2u
*~coco~*

Titia Geertman
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18 posted 2001-12-16 06:43 AM


That's what friends are for, to stick together to those who violate the rules in such an agressive manner.

He will end up being a lonely man if he keeps up  this agressiveness, but that will be entirely his choice.

HUGS and hope to see you posting again soon.

Serenity, I never ever have noticed a harsh reply from you anywhere. Don't compare yourself with this man please.
And keep posting.

With so many members it's inevitable that we can't reach each of them, but they stay so once in a while I take a whole evening to look down the line to those who have few answers. It's the least I can do.

True, some poems do touch me more than others, but fortunately we're not all alike, so as a Dutch saying goes: on every jar fits a lit.

Titia

A rose is a rose is a rose...I guess...
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doreen peri
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19 posted 2001-12-16 11:00 AM


geez..... seems like i've missed a lot of what's been going on here

i'm so sorry to hear all of this. .... and i'm sincerely glad i missed it!!

(you should be glad, too, because you wouldn't have want me getting involved... i tend to be quite vocal.... lol!!! )

well, all i can say is people are people and they will be people no matter what we do, carrying with them baggage and animosities and some people are more emotional than others and some are more outspoken and some are more sensitive and some will take words very seriously and sometimes people make comments to people that they shouldn't have made and some people like me tend to ramble on and on about it.... hehe

all this to say, i hang with my first comment on this thread....let's write some poetry and be happy and forget all the other stuff because when it really comes down to it, negative feelings aren't good for anybody.....    

happy holidays to all of you!!

and may you find true Peace in your hearts and offer true Love to each other which includes a big bounty of Forgiveness and Acceptance.

Just as negativity breeds more negativity, so does the positive offerings of beauty and Love result in more of the same.


Mother_Earth
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20 posted 2001-12-16 02:55 PM


Boy, you all let me see my little fit of madness was just that!! a fit of madness. Thank you all for helping me see this person in the light of others.  I will think before I go in the corner and pout.  Poor me with my feelings hurt.  Sorry about all of this and you have shown what true friends are all about.  Have a happy holiday season where ever you may be.  Hugs to you, my friends
serenity blaze
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21 posted 2001-12-16 07:10 PM


yer lovely.
RosePetal
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22 posted 2001-12-17 03:15 PM


Hi Mother_Earth! You just park your keester right here and dont think of leaving us!
You go right ahead and be your sweet self and don't worry about the few ignorant people who lurk out there. We love having you here, we really do! Don't quit my friend, please CONTINUE, everything will be just fine! I've seen quite a few disputes going on around here lately, and I wish we could all just get along and enjoy the upcoming holidays. ((hugs))

Irie
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23 posted 2001-12-17 07:04 PM


I know just why you were feeling this way.
If it makes you feel any better.... I've
sent this person a great big POKE IN THE EYE!

Hugs.....hope you're feeling better and that you will stay fro a while!

~Sheri

"The things that come to those that wait may be the things
left by those who got there first"



kaile
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24 posted 2001-12-18 02:44 AM


and i await your poems and replies..
hope you feel better soon..

Midnitesun
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25 posted 2001-12-18 03:51 AM


You can't quit. We need more sensible straightforward honest people here. we just don't need them to be rude, and you have never been rude, and should not have been abused verbally. Please stay, and know that the poem "Respect for all poets" was written after I read that offensive thread.  
Allan Riverwood
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26 posted 2001-12-18 10:03 AM


Just take a break from PIP.  A little breather never hurt anyone.

I just came back from my "vacation," and I'm about as happily active as I ever was.

It works.

Sunshine
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27 posted 2001-12-18 10:36 AM


Every once in a while I find a thread where all the action is...{~,^}

ME...I've had to take a chill pill now and then when someone said something to me and didn't include a   or a   and I interpreted their words the wrong way.

Unfortunately, the man was out of place, and is now...out of Place....

so I for one am glad to see that YOU are staying, and I look forward to your next posting...and make it soon, OK, 'cause I need some Christmas candy that's non-fattening!

Mother_Earth
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28 posted 2001-12-18 09:32 PM


OK, OK, I will chill out,  get rhino hide and read between the lines and in general enjoy the view.  I promise.  ME
Bec
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29 posted 2001-12-19 05:38 AM


ME...

I must admit that I don't think I've ever commented on any of your work, and I'm sorry about that. But reading other people's comments here made me realise that you are a very special and important person to all of them, and leaving PIP would be a disappointment to them. I think that the best thing to do would be to either take a break, and just poke your head in now and then. Or maybe read poems and email your comments? But don't let something like this ruin your fun, because that's what this is. It's for fun. Sometimes we forget that. You do what is going to be most helpful for you, and you hurry back!!

Bec

"Poetry and Hums aren't things which you get, they're things which get you. And all you can do is to go where they can find you."
-Winnie-the-Pooh

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